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As far as education goes, quite a bit comes from the state.
It seems to me that the way it was set up in the begining, each state had it's own military that was state funded.
Apperently, the Civil war had little to do about slavery.
It would have been kind of nice to have learned about that in elementary school.
Last but not least.....our police departments are federaly funded
people who make $200,000 per year pay approx $70,000per year and again the companies match that).
Originally posted by Skibum
As far as education goes, quite a bit comes from the state.
Might depend on which state you live in. Where I live the county pays most of the school budget.
Originally posted by mrsdudara
Thanks for all the links and info. It is truely amazing how corrupt the system is now days. It is hard to tell what is legal and what is not.
Originally posted by mrsdudara
OpenSecret, I am anxious to get those books I have heard that they are well worth the read. I had forgoten about Icke, but I will get the the barnes and noble site later and order those.
Originally posted by mrsdudara
Originally posted by orionthehunter
As far as where our tax dollars go, they go to pay for social security for the elderly, for education, for the defense of everyone in this country, for research which leads to new jobs here in the US, and to pay all of our services we receive from the government such as police going after thieves and murderers.
Originally posted by mrsdudara
This is where I get confused. We pay social security tax, it is seperate from the Fed. Income tax.
Originally posted by mrsdudara
As far as education goes, quite a bit comes from the state. They have already threatened to take that away if a percentage of the districts in the state have not passed the "no child left behind" standards.
Originally posted by mrsdudara
Now, the military portion has been getting confusing the more I look into it. It seems to me that the way it was set up in the begining, each state had it's own military that was state funded. When needed, it came together to serve the nation as a whole. Somewhere that all changed and Im not too clear on the when and why's.
Originally posted by mrsdudara
Apperently, the Civil war had little to do about slavery. It would have been kind of nice to have learned about that in elementary school. Last but not least.....our police departments are federaly funded?????
[edit on 15-5-2005 by mrsdudara]
Originally posted by n01ukn0w
I think the correct question should have been, where in the Internal Revenue Code is anyone made liable to pay income taxes. Just because somebody says you are liable, doen't mean you are liable. Where in the Code is the income tax imposed and makes Americans, Citizens or anyone for that matter liable to pay? A statute must be explicit in stating that YOU are liable and must pay the specified tax. If you can find a statute that imposes an income tax, makes you liable, and states that you must pay that tax, you will have done something absolutely amazing! Why? Because the statue does not exist. Don't take my word for it. Look it up yourself.
US Code of Laws Title 26
Originally posted by koji_K
As the nation's central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the US Congress. It is considered an independent central bank because its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms. The Federal Reserve's financial independence arises because it is hugely profitable, among others, due to its ownership of government bonds. It returns billions of dollars to the government each year. However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by the Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute. Also, the Federal Reserve must work within the framework of the overall objectives of economic and financial policy established by the government.
Source: en.wikipedia.org...
-koji K.
Originally posted by koji_K
The FDIC act provided insurance to all personal accounts at Federal Reserve Member banks (all national banks and some state banks) up to, I believe, $200,000.
Originally posted by orionthehunter
Originally posted by koji_K
The FDIC act provided insurance to all personal accounts at Federal Reserve Member banks (all national banks and some state banks) up to, I believe, $200,000.
That's a pretty good explanation and graphic of where the dollar goes koji_K but I thought the amount of insurance was typically $100,000 per depositor within the same institution unless you have deposits setup with different categories of legal ownership.
www.pueblo.gsa.gov...
Research for more jobs? LOLOL! You're missinformed there!
Originally posted by koji_K
Quite simply, paying income tax is Constitutional, even notwithstanding any Amendment.
Originally posted by spamandham
Originally posted by koji_K
Quite simply, paying income tax is Constitutional, even notwithstanding any Amendment.
Sort of, but you're neglecting the business about apportionment. The modern income tax depends on the ability to tax without apportionment, which did require an amendment.
More importantly though, the Constitution does not give Congress the right to redefine the word "income". Wages were not considered "income" at the time the Constitution was written, and the 16th amendment does not broaden the scope of the definition. There's nothing in the Constitution that gives the IRS the right to redefine wages as income, and there's nothing in the Constitution that gives the Feds the right to tax wages without apportionment (wages are not income and are thus not covered by the 16th amendment. They are a direct tax which must still be aportioned if anyone still cared about the Constitution [which they don't]). Actually, the Constitution specifically prohibits the taxation of wages (it's a form of slavery).
The profits, rents, and interest of public corporations is what was originally meant by "income". These were given special consideration since public corporations are artificial entities protected by the force of the state. Private profits, rents, and interest were also not considered "income".
Almost nothing the IRS does is Constitutional, but then again, almost nothing the federal government does at all is strictly Constitutional. That has been the case since the civil war, when the dictatorship of Lincoln destroyed our heritage of limited government forever.
Originally posted by koji_K
Why all the animosity towards the Federal Reserve? A nation cannot exist on any significant economic level without a central bank.
Originally posted by koji_K
Witness again, the bank rush following 1929 that eventually gave rise to the Federal Reserve system as we know it today. How many jobs and livelihoods would have been spared had it not been for a sound, solid central banking system in place at the time, to serve as a lender of last resort to the failing banks?
Originally posted by koji_K
We tried the "state bank" system once and it was a failure.
[edit on 16-5-2005 by koji_K]
Originally posted by orionthehunter
Research for more jobs? LOLOL! You're missinformed there!
As far as what I stated earlier by government money going for or being spent on research and development leading to job creation here in the US, I still believe some of that money does cause job creation. Didn't the US government spend money to develop the first computers and didn't government funds get spent to create the internet? If you are saying the subsequent use of computers and the internet did not create a single job here in the US, then I will stand corrected.
Originally posted by orionthehunter
www.nathannewman.org...
As far as the government not creating jobs I will agree with that if it is not a federally funded job. Companies do create jobs but some of those jobs are the end result of manufacturing, developing, and servicing the technologies created in part by our tax dollars at work in my opinion.
Originally posted by orionthehunter
I believe our tax dollars are working to give the US a competitive edge or some might say the US corporations a competitive edge over foreign rivals. I believe a few of those resultant jobs do come here before someone looks at outsourcing them.
[edit on 16-5-2005 by orionthehunter]
a 2000-year-old computer on the ocean floor.
Originally posted by OpenSecret2012
Go to your local major bookstore (like Barnes & Noble) ask where the books by David Icke are at. And start with "The Biggest Secret". Then next read "And the Truth Shall Set You Free". Barnes & Noble, and most other major bookstores allow everyone to read all books for free. They even encourage it! You can also choose to buy the books if you can afford em.
If everyone posting in this thread would read those 2 books, and the parts where Icke talks about the Federal Reserve, and the IRS, everyone in this thread would instantly be of the same mind, opinion. And have ALL the facts. (Icke lists all his sources at the end of every chapter.)