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The antichrist----could "he" be technology?

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posted on May, 14 2005 @ 06:39 AM
Because you're screwed either way - you believe in A god (Illuminati story that seeks to control) & science (all major discoveries are from Illuminati, or to-be Illuminati). You believe in THEIR god & THEIR science.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 06:41 AM
Everything that IS, has been "given" to us by our masters. THEY CHOOSE.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 06:41 AM

Originally posted by Enigmatic Debris
Because you're screwed either way - you believe in A god (Illuminati story that seeks to control) & science (all major discoveries are from Illuminati, or to-be Illuminati). You believe in THEIR god & THEIR science.

I'm sorry, i am not sure what you are taling about here. Could you explain? and who are these "masters" you speak of?

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 06:44 AM
ah - to awake someone else - you're telling me you're in you 20's (I'm assuming,) and you've never felt the urge to find out who controls us? You really do beLIEve in god, don't you?

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 06:45 AM
If you think religion is so important, forget about crucifictions & focus on the moral aspect of things.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 06:48 AM
The bible is a story the Illuminati created to keep humans in line - SHEEP - just like the rituals in Freemasonry is used. Instead of "Scared Straight", they should call all of this "Scared Stupid". No offense to you, I swear. You just need to throw it all away & start thinking for yourself. "It's only when you have nothing, you realize that the world is at your fingertips."

This is to also say evolution is wrong. Charles Darwin's father was a "Secret Society" member, and used his son to spread lies. Yes to Microevolution. No to evolution. God didn't create us. THEY did.

[edit on 14-5-2005 by Enigmatic Debris]

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 06:50 AM
I have heard all types of conspiracy theories. I know a lot of people who have all sorts of ideas about the Free Masons, the Illuminati, New world oder. But I have never really looked into it. And yes, I am in my early 20s. Is this what you are talking about?

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 06:55 AM
Or at least helped us along (rapidly.)

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 06:58 AM
to see that I'm not crazy (or that 2 people ARE crazy) visit here PLEASE!!!!!

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 07:14 AM
Wow, so this lloyd person believes that we were placed on earth by aliens? I have heard that one too, but I never knew that there are scientists who are trying to prove this theory with facts.

No, I do not think you are crazy
Everyone has their own beliefs and this is just another type. But, I have saved your U2U so I can keep the website you gave me and look at it in more detail later. I appreciate it.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 07:17 AM

I have been on a thread about evolution for a few days now, and have read many battles between the religious and the scientific. The common theme is that religion is wrong (said by the scientist) or that science is wrong (said by the religious). Ohhh, and the scientists have so many good arguments, backed up by more substantial evidence than the words of the Bible.

Christianity is not anti-sceince. I have also been in a thread in the science section about Radiometric dating. The bottom line was this:
Radiometric dating is based on assumptions, not observed numbers, and the output data is theory, not fact.
Now I can spin that one way or the other.
"Radiometric dating is scientific theory that may as well be fact because its based on the best available science known to man. The assumptions are likely highly accurate"
Nows that.
Now it looks good. Maybe we can get some more folks in here that can spin better then me and make it sound even better. It wont change the fact that the information is NOT fact though.

So the 4.5 billion years is only a theory that is based on more theory. Evolution is a theory that is based on other theories that..etc etc etc

The geologic column only exists in its complete form in a couple dozen places on earth. Erosion cannot account for the missing in the manner they are layed out.

The facts are, we have bones of animals that are no longer alive.
We have evidence of a world wide catastrophy that played a part in the extinction and the bible provides that.

Evolution has been around since before Christ. The greeks are were we find it. Its not a surprise that the bible contains
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.


1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

Gap theory
Evolution is not science. its theory. Really, it doesnt even qualify for that. Its an 'idea'....a religion. Too many assumptions
I dont have enough faith to believe in evolution.

Now to your idea about technology being the AC

No. The bible is clear that it will be a man.
I am not saying that the idea you have about this, is only in your head though.

You have noticed that since the 1800's , technology has been on the increase while christianity has been on the decrease. Some folks dont notice that. They think anyone with the label, is a christian. Jesus says only those who keep his words are christians.

1.) Darwinism took off in the 1800's
2.) The pagan olympics returned in the 1800's...dedicated in 2004 to the greek version of Tammuz... Dionysus(sp?)
3.) Industrial revolution which decayed family life
4.) womens lib which eventually leads to the of abortion
5.) Massive entertainment..distractions..most people are oblivious to govt

This is the end time
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Again and again the bible says that your eyes are opened to all of this AFTER you believe.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 07:20 AM
seraph5 : I wish the best of luck in your travels & experiences.

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 07:27 AM
This is a thread I started , and it addresses some of the discrepancies between the Christian and Catholic religions. Just thought you'd like to see it, especially the part about Mary staying a virgin. We don't call her the Virgin Mother for nothing.

My mother in law is a fundamentalist Christian, and I am a not so fundamentalist (actually almost not at all) Catholic. We get into major discussions, to put it nicely, about all sorts of religous topics.

For one, did Darwin really recount his theories on his deathbed? I had NEVER heard about that before she told me. I did some research online and there are all sorts of "facts" and "evidence" to back up both sides of this story. Does anyone have any good evidence either way?

Another topic is that in the Catholic religion, when we pray to Mary to ask her son Jesus to help us in our times of need, that we are worshipping a false idol. A true Catholic knows that we do not pray to Mary for her intervention, just to ask if she would ask her son to help.

The same goes for patron saints. We have one for almost everything you can think of.

And who came up with this idea that the world is only 6000 years old? I believe in evolution, she thinks I am absolutely wrong.

The major topic of debate is whether or not Mary stayed a virgin her whole life. We as Catholics believe she did. My mother inlaw seems to think that Jesus had brothers and sisters, and in this sense I mean literal blood siblings. Why haven't I heard about this? Is there any factual (or at least written) evidence of this anywhere? Bible does not count by the way, well, I guess it does.

This idea from revelations that only 144,000 people will be marked for salvation at the end of the world is another thing she has passed by me. I have read that too, but come on now, that cannot be a literal statement. What would happen to the 6 billion or so other people on this earth? Johova Witnesses believe that one too. ( i don't think i spelled that right)

All I have to say is that the Catholic religion has been around a lot longer than the modern day idea of Christianity sooo........

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 07:29 AM
So, the Antichrist is supposed be human, uh huh. I'm guessing that now since it's now a human and not a mythical creature, it could have died already. Going by this, Guess Who's The Real Antichrist! Is it Aleister Crowley (who was a 33rd degree mason & claimed he was "The Great Beast".) Or maybe Anton LeVay (to be tied to the Kennedys you'd HAVE to sell your soul.) Could it be Bill Gates (the supposed gate-keeper between the Illuminati-Reptilians and us,) or George W. Bush? Who knows!

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 07:31 AM
When you stop looking at the bible as "Scripture", and start looking at it as "contrived history" it'll help.

[edit on 14-5-2005 by Enigmatic Debris]

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 07:34 AM
Johova Witnesses & Their "Watchtower" was created by Freemasons, which were created by the Illuminati. "Watchtower" as in "POLICE YOUR FELLOW MAN" They don't need police. They have the brainwashed masses to keep "real" threats away. US & OUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 07:52 AM

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Science is not evil and neither is technology.
Hard science is not against God, soft sciences are merely used by those who are attempting to remove God from our minds, and much of that is occuring in academia and not where the tires meet the tarmac.

Science and technology are tools to be sure. But if they are not tempered by a strong moral foundation then they are used selfishly and destructively.

Science and technology without a spiritual base is a trap. A trap that leads to people believing that Science is God.

After all, we can venture to the stars and clone bodies, and are starting to understand genetic engineering. Surely, many think, we are on the brink of becoming gods ourselves!

Just like the Grey-aliens who use many of us as laboratory animals and slaves, and who laugh at our belief in God, we can become JUST LIKE THEM!

[edit on 14-5-2005 by Paul_Richard]

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 07:59 AM
As the previous post explores, this is deeper than you think. Please visit here & watch the video at the bottom of the Bill Hamilton Interview with Dr. Dan Burisch on October 18, 2002. This, if you can hang in, with have you S#!T yourself.

[edit on 14-5-2005 by Enigmatic Debris]

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Science and technology without a spiritual base is a trap. A trap that leads to people believing that Science is God.

Even if Science isn't God, the laws of science must be one of the 1st things God created:

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Sounds the like "the Word" is very much like a system of laws and balances for the universe-Science

[edit on 14-5-2005 by babloyi]

posted on May, 14 2005 @ 08:23 AM

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

Now YOU start doing HCR for at least ten minutes a day (for starters).

The only solution to this crisis is a spiritual one, not a technological one, as they clearly hold the advantage in that arena.

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