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Intelligent design VS Evolution in court in Kansas (moved from ATSNN)




Topic started on 12-5-2005 @ 03:52 PM by syrinx high priest


The sticky issue of how to teach Evolution/Intelligent Design is playing out in Kansas. What's at stake is the actual curruculum involed. Many school systems throughout the US will likely be paying attention to the outcome of this trial.




www.msnbc.msn.com
Sharp words traded at evolution hearing
Lawyer blasts intelligent-design advocates in KansasThe Associated Press
Updated: 3:08 p.m. ET May 12, 2005TOPEKA, Kan. - A Topeka attorney on Thursday denounced intelligent-design advocates and conservative State Board of Education members for what he said were their unwarranted attacks on evolution.

Pedro Irigonegaray's arguments came during the last day of hearings before a subcommittee of the State Board of Education, focusing on how evolutionary theory is taught. The entire board plans to consider by August changes in standards that determine how students are tested on science statewide.

During a two-hour attack on language proposed by intelligent-design advocates, Irigonegaray lectured presiding members, telling them they are damaging science education and the state's reputation.

"You have a responsibility to the children and the future of this state that you have sadly — sadly — failed," Irigonegaray told them.

But board members didn't let Irigonegaray's comments go unanswered, saying that he and other evolution defenders had engaged in character assassinations.

"I believe your behavior here was abusive," said Board Member Connie Morris. "I want you to know I forgive you."



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I would like to see school systems expose children to all reasonable explanations for any theory, its a shame it has to be legislated like this. I can't help picturing how issues like this were settled 10,000 years ago, the guy with the biggest club won the argument back then, the guy with the best lawyer wins the argument now.....is that evolution or intelligent design ?



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reply posted on 12-5-2005 @ 04:41 PM by spamandham


If they're going to teach intelligent design, then they need to also explain that it fails the first test of a valid scientific theory - it is unfalsifiable. It should also be taught that no-one has witnessed intelligent design in action.

The evidence that counters it should also be exposed. In humans alone there are dozens of serious flaws that a good designer would not have included, such as the useless yet death causing appendix, the laryngeal nerve, the vestigal tail, high mortality rate of birth (before modern medicine) etc.

If we are to teach intelligent design, we should teach what the evidence shows; an imperfect designer who makes mistakes. Somehow I doubt that's what the folks in Kansas had in mind.



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reply posted on 12-5-2005 @ 04:54 PM by James the Lesser


Or teach that 2+2=22 in math class. Look, you take a 2, put a 2 next to it, what do you have? 22! See? I am right, 2+2=4 is wrong, anyone who says so is to be killed.
Also, according to the bible, christians aren't suppose to take religon to court.
www.evilbible.com...



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