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RUSSIANS Far ahead of the WORLD in Weather Control.!!!!!

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posted on May, 12 2005 @ 02:49 PM
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Its know to us for a long time but i am now sure how much the international community knows about it

During the Present VE day celebration in Moscow 9th May 2005 , it was a rainy day and the rain never seemed to stop ,.....even BBC showed president Putin receiving President Bush with an umbrella...all of us were depressed that the rain will hamper all our celebrations...but just 5 minutes before the parade started 12 Antonov An-12 and Ilyushin IL-18 aircraft took position in the sky over Moscow, divided in 10 zones, and all of us were surprised that the rain stopped in 5 mins


Always take the weather with you
Newyork times writes :
"Last weekend, Russian president Vladimir Putin ordered the Russian Air Force to keep it from raining over Moscow in advance of Monday's military parade. The Air Force used a procedure called "cloud seeding", and Russia's defense minister later took credit for Monday's sunshine. Can the Russians really control the weather? "

the Deccan herald writes
""Flying at the altitude of 3,000 - 8,000 metre, the planes sprinkled various chemicals including silver iodide, liquid nitrogen, dry ice (frozen carbon dioxide) and even ordinary cement to seed the clouds at a distance of 50-150 km away. By 10 am, sharp at the start of the military parade, rain had stopped in Red Square and the sky was clear for the impressive flypast by Sukhoi and MiG fighters.


“The efforts would be to keep the sky clear till late in the night as hundreds of thousand people and guests are expected to take to streets to watch the spectacular fireworks in various parts of the capital,” Air Force spokesman Colonel Drobyshevsky said. "




We have seen such miraculous events when ever there is a big international Function in Russia...for instance 2 years back during the 300th anneversery of St Petersburg we saw heavy rain falling at a distace 1 Km away from the city centre while the main city centre is cloudless and sunny ..ready for the celebrations ....




Proponents of "cloud seeding" say it's possible to induce rain and snow (after which clouds can break up and disappear), suppress hail, and clear up patches of fog. Twenty or 30 countries run cloud-seeding operations of some sort; China has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on weather manipulation over the last decade but havent yet achived anything uptil now .

. The bureau in charge of cloud seeding in Thailand reportedly has 600 staff-members and a $25 million budget.Yet no successful achievements have appeared yet

No federal funds go toward cloud seeding in America, but a handful of states finance projects locally. Utah just kicked in for $400,000 worth of weather control projects.
The U.S. federal government was at one time very optimistic about weather manipulation; by the late 1970s, annual funding for cloud-seeding projects hit $20 million. But after years without definitive results, interest in Washington has evaporated (except, perhaps, among the people who introduced this bill in the Senate in early March). Some studies have suggested that cloud seeding actually reduces rainfall, or merely redistributes it. A 2003 report from the National Research Council concluded that while cloud seeding may hold promise, we still don't know very much about it.

all these reports prove that Russians are much much ahead as far as controlling the weather is concerned

Here's how it works: Rain starts as tiny droplets of water suspended in clouds. Then the droplets clump together into bigger drops (or freeze together into bigger crystals). Once the drops or crystals are big and heavy enough, they fall out of the sky. The frozen drops can melt on the way down, becoming rain, or they can fall to the ground as snow. Cloud seeding aims to jump-start this process by helping droplets to clump or freeze together when they otherwise wouldn't.

Cloud seeders use a number of procedures. In the mid-1940s, three scientists at General Electric (including the novelist Kurt Vonnegut's brother Bernie) showed that by injecting dry ice into a cloud, you could freeze tiny droplets of water, which would in turn make it easier for other droplets to glom on and freeze as well. Later experiments showed that silver iodide—which has a crystal structure similar to that of ice—could also help, by forming "ice nuclei" upon which droplets might freeze.

To induce rain with dry ice, you would fly a plane over a small cloud and sprinkle down a few cups' worth of dry ice pellets. To seed with silver iodide, you'd vaporize a solution at high temperatures and disperse it in the cloud. This can be done using silver iodide flares, which are dropped 8 or 10 at a time from above the cloud, or with silver-iodide-filled rockets or anti-aircraft shells. If you're seeding clouds over a mountain, you can use generators on the ground which release silver iodide vapor into the air currents that rise up one side of the mountain and into the clouds.

Silver iodide and dry ice are examples of "glaciogenic" agents, and they only help to produce rain in clouds of sufficiently low temperatures. For warmer clouds—in which droplets don't freeze before falling—cloud seeders can use sprays of saline solution to attract droplets and, theoretically, to induce rain.







Apart form stopping rain there are others instances which prove that the Russians inherited a well organised system to control weather

1 in the Winter place of St Petersburg the Czars had a system that could make the Folwers boolm at gardens at -45 digree centricrade....such a technology is not a very big thing today ..but the Russians had it during the 15th century.....even in the 18th century such a technology was beyond the reach of any country in the world...the garden is today open to public in St Petersburg..and its good to see flowers bloom at -35 during the winters

2 Russia has been attacked by foreign invaders two times in History ...once by Napoleon and then in 1941 by the Nazi Germany ...it is surprising to note in in BOTH THE PERTICULAR YEARS RUSSIA RECORDED THE COLDEST WINTER in the whole Russian History...and all know how much crucial role weather played in those wars that helped Russia to screw her enemies
You may call it a circumstance but watching various miraculous evets in Russia from my childhood about Weather control ..I am sure that the Russians have a well organised system of controling weather that will help her a lot in case some foreign power ever dares to invade it

Referance
Newyork times
Deccan Herald
Russian Academy of science

helpful link :
www.deccanherald.com...




posted on May, 12 2005 @ 03:08 PM
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nothing new... countries around the world have been doing this for a long long time



posted on May, 12 2005 @ 03:35 PM
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Interesting read but pretty much common knowledge, some cloud seeding facts:


One scientist associated with the invention of cloud seeding is Irving Langmuir. The first attempt at cloud seeding was in the state of Massachusetts in 1946. A plane 'seeded' a cloud with crushed dry ice; snow began falling out of that cloud. Noted atmospheric scientist Bernard Vonnegut (brother of novelist Kurt Vonnegut) is credited with discovering the potential of silver iodide for use in cloud seeding.

An attempt by the US to modify hurricanes in the Atlantic basin using cloud seeding in the 1950's was called Project Stormfury. Only a few hurricanes were tested with cloud seeding because of the strict rules that were set by the scientists of Project Stormfury. It was unclear whether this project was successful; hurricanes appeared to change in structure slightly, but it appeared to only be a temporary effect. The fear that cloud seeding could potentially change the course or power of hurricanes and negatively affect people in the storms path stopped the project.

Today, cloud seeding is used to increase precipitation in areas experiencing drought, to reduce the size of hailstones that form in thunderstorms, and to reduce the amount of fog in and around airports. Cloud seeding is also occasionally used by major ski resorts to induce snow fall.


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posted on May, 12 2005 @ 07:06 PM
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Silver Iodide, isn't that the basic chemical used for manmade precipitation?



posted on May, 26 2005 @ 04:36 PM
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I really dont think it matters much that anyone controls the weather, unless they can make it like hurricane. I cant imagine an invasion on Russia being defeated by some heavy rain..



posted on May, 26 2005 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by truttseeker
I really dont think it matters much that anyone controls the weather, unless they can make it like hurricane. I cant imagine an invasion on Russia being defeated by some heavy rain..

You'd be suprised, weather can obliterate navies, anihalte armies, cause airforces to be grounded or crash.



posted on May, 26 2005 @ 08:20 PM
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Yea i know weather can decimate all kinds of militaries, but what im saying is so far all Russia can do is cause heavy rain. That might limit visiblity but with thermal and nightvision rain wont do anything. When the russians can control tornados, hurricanes, duststorms then it could interfere.



posted on May, 26 2005 @ 08:25 PM
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russia apparently sells Weather Control to other Countries. And last I heard years ago, US and Russia signed some sort of agreement not to manipulate Weather..the potential agression on Countries good bring them to their knees.

Dallas



posted on May, 26 2005 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by truttseeker
Yea i know weather can decimate all kinds of militaries, but what im saying is so far all Russia can do is cause heavy rain. That might limit visiblity but with thermal and nightvision rain wont do anything. When the russians can control tornados, hurricanes, duststorms then it could interfere.

Rain can stop paradrops, armies in thier tracks, keep airforces grounded and varios other things.



posted on May, 26 2005 @ 08:32 PM
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Rain? What about all the talk of the F-15's and stuff being all weather aircraft. rain cant stop an airforce. The coast guard was goin out off the east coast during the new england tropical storm, as depicted in The Perfect Storm. That was a tropical storm and aircraft were flying. I highly doubt that rain could stop a military, maybe the infantry. Tanks can go tho, the only reason that rain could stop a military imo is if it rained so hard it caused flash floods.



posted on May, 26 2005 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by truttseeker
Rain? What about all the talk of the F-15's and stuff being all weather aircraft. rain cant stop an airforce.

Rain can if its heavy enough, well then it sort of becomes hail stones.
Once its in the air its ok, on the ground is the prob.



The coast guard was goin out off the east coast during the new england tropical storm, as depicted in The Perfect Storm. That was a tropical storm and aircraft were flying.

The coast gaurd have ships specifically designed for that kind of condition, navies can survive that but its incredibly dangerous.
One RN ship almost broke its back in the north sea because of a rogue wave, that wasnt even in heavy rain or in very bad conditions.
Also , aircraft in heavy rain lose visibility, do you want to fly at 80 MPH 20 feet above the water being only able to see through your radar?



I highly doubt that rain could stop a military, maybe the infantry. Tanks can go tho, the only reason that rain could stop a military imo is if it rained so hard it caused flash floods.

Tanks get bogged down in mud, believe it or not they cant go everywhere.
Also its not about front line units, think of logistics, all those trucks stuck in mud.
All those supplies stuck...



posted on May, 26 2005 @ 11:15 PM
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True but during the the storm off the northeast coast they were flying blackhawks through all that. Russia can only control rain, if they want it to hail and stop planes on the ground then they gotta wait till it gets cold.



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 12:13 AM
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Look, There may have been bad weather during those wars, but that can be just coincidence.

The main thing that defeated napolean in Russia was the Russians burning Moscow, any food that was in / around Moscow so that Napoleans troops would starve much much more than they already were.
As for the Nazi invasion. Doesn't it normally snow at that time of the year and in that location. snow.... having it cold enough for snow ( which is a naturally occuring phenomina in those necks of the woods) froze the germans fuel.



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 01:00 AM
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in the 90's , I subscribed for a short time , to this group called "youth action news "

dunno, might still have some of it lying about

anyways , I'll never forget one of their headlines " US SOVIET WEATHER WARS "

the claim was we BOTH were controlling the weather using ELFs...of course our gov't denied doing that.

but I did notice in the 80's , a program from AOPA called "A.M. Weather" , was right on the money with their forecasts for quite some time. I'd even decide whether or not to ride my motorcycle to work that day or not based on their forecast !

I dunno if the NAVY used ELF to control the weather or not , but there has been lots of speculation about the " CONTRAILS" in the sky , and some weather changes noted after they flew over.

I'd say we had the same capabilities as the russians and we both probably "graduated" from experimenting with ELF, and have found new ways to produce, that which we desire...



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by truttseeker
True but during the the storm off the northeast coast they were flying blackhawks through all that. Russia can only control rain, if they want it to hail and stop planes on the ground then they gotta wait till it gets cold.

Russia is a very cold country....



posted on May, 27 2005 @ 11:25 AM
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Another source with some information on Cloud Seeding.

news.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 2 2005 @ 10:25 PM
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I think the US is just as advanced in weather control as Russia. Maybe we can make it snow though



posted on Jun, 2 2005 @ 10:51 PM
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Thats awsome!
Exept; all the chemicals in the air could damge the O-zone (?) or reduse rainfall (As it said).
Its allso just not natural.. What will happens when it just stops raining, or.. something (?) than we would have to creat a rain creation or snow or ail machine.



posted on Jun, 2 2005 @ 11:07 PM
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maybe controlling weather isnt as big of a military asset as an economical asset. Imagine....a massive crippling drought which would usually destroy an agricultural based economy. The government uses its weather control and makes it rain. Or it can make conditions favorable for soldiers fighting in a desert zone. Iraq maybe?



posted on Jun, 3 2005 @ 02:38 AM
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Weather Wars

Pretty cool.




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