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Originally posted by RebelSaint
I have a better question for this thread.
By 2008, will you accept the National ID Card? Seeing as how my drivers license doesn't expire until 2013 which leaves plenty of time for the antichrist, mayans, jesus or aliens to return and destroy us, I will not accept this "mark". My DL and other subsequent documents should proof without a doubt my identity to any and all authorities. Religion or no religion, its eerily similar to the beginning of our worst nightmares. I say no in 08 to the Mark.
Originally posted by TrueLies
Also instead of being complacent and whining about these id's, move to the city, purchase a bike, roller blades, or take the subway/buses...
This way you can use your old id's for other things.
Also you could do what the libertarian former prez candidates does; drive a car without plates and a liscence and claim he has his constitutional right to do so... He gets tickets sure, but he doesn't pay em.
[edit on 25-8-2005 by TrueLies]
Originally posted by QuietSoul
Ehm, what exactly is the problem here? Do you think they can store any more information on your National ID then they can store in the SS databases?
I mean seriously, when you get pulled over, and the cop asks for your Drivers License: He instantly knows all your past crimes, speeding tickets, if you have a warrant, if you're on a "watch list", how old you are, where you live.. if you're a male or female, what race you are.. etc etc
Do you really think a NID card will be any different?
And people keep talking about "freedom" here. If the NID card is used say.. to enter public subways.. how is them "keeping track" of your "movements" taking away your freedom? If you're not making bombs in your basement and trying to get on the subway, then theres absolutly nothing to "worry" about.
Do you really think the government is going to hire a private investigator to monitor your every move through your NID card? Uhm.. no. The only time they'll look at your card history is if you commit a crime and they need to backtrack your movements.
This card is no different then Londons huge CCTV system, or the CCTV System due to arrive in the USA. They can essentially follow a person around the city if they wanted to.
I think a NID card with a CCTV system would be an excellent crime deterrant.
"Oh damn, Billy Bob's in the supermarket again.. quick, contact the FBI and make sure he's not buying anything illegal!"