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GOP or Dem: The Party of Depravity?

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posted on May, 11 2005 @ 02:22 PM
It's a mystery to me: it does not take more than scant minutes to uncover news of repeated moral transgressions by Republican officials. Yet, Democrats do not use the type of ammo that would surly be used on them, should the roles be reversed?


The only conclusion I come up with these days = Democrats are completely & utterly complicit.

GOP Pedohilia

* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

* Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.

* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug '___'.

* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

* Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

posted on May, 11 2005 @ 05:01 PM
With the republican BS, you have the "KILL THE GAYS!" or Delay on Justice Sunday going on about a "solution" to the gays. Then you see things like this! You have to buy access for the rest, but just the first 50 words show how republicans work.....

This site exposes just about every gay republican with power. Also the Gay Prostitute used by the GOP to suck up to Bush/take up time in timed press conferences to keep real reporters from asking questions.

posted on May, 11 2005 @ 05:42 PM
Not only those, but here are some more hypocrisy from the GOP.(Damn thing won't let me edit.... GRR!!!

The chosen vehicle is S. 10, which has been
introduced by Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and has been cosponsored by
27 other Republicans. Gun owners should take note that many
horrible anti-gun provisions were included in the bill.
Gee, I thought they wanted everyone to have the right to own guns, tanks, nukes, yet there they are trying to make it illegal....

Is the guy who does background checks at the White House gonna "resign" too? Meanwhile, mainstream corporate media seems to think that the Religious Right's psychotic accusations that SpongeBob Square Pants is gay are more worthy of coverage! Well why not silly rabbits? They've all become one diminensional cartoon networks.
More Jeff Gannon stuff.

Also, how many republicans are on a second or third marrige? So much for sanctity of marrige.
Rush Limbaugh is on his Third Marrige....
Newt Gingrich, who after divorcing his wife when she was in the hospital hours after getting breast cancer surgery, is on his third marrige.(He showed up with his two kids and divorce papers, caught her so off guard she thought she had died during surgery and was in hell) Here is a link to most of this.
That one is how the republicans support divorce, mainly Reagan.

JUNE 22--In what may prove a crippling blow to his U.S. Senate campaign, divorce records reveal that Illinois Republican Jack Ryan was accused by his former wife, actress Jeri Ryan, of pressuring her to have sex at swinger's clubs in New York, Paris, and New Orleans while other patrons watched.
Oh that's right, they believe in the sanctity of marrige, is group sex considered ok then?

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A state senator sponsoring a constitutional amendment aimed at "solemnizing the relationship of one man and one woman" is accused in a divorce case of cheating on his wife.
Again, more "Marrige is a holy bond, unless I get caught screwing another woman, then it's ok to divorce....
More affairs/divorces by the "Marrige is Sacred" group.

Now, nothing wrong with divorce, unless you are the party that wants divorced women branded as sluts and men who divorce as bastards who are falling to satan or whatever. Just like a gay dem is no big deal, but a gay republican is because well, you go on tv one week calling for the "solution" to the gay problem then next week say "Oops, don't kill them, I'm gay to."

Ok, will let me edit this. IDK why I posted this, I had more to add, so here it is.

These deal with divorce/sex scandals among republicans, like how they wanted Clinton dead for getting a bj, but one of their own has group sex, no problem. Or how they say the blue states have no morals, yet red states have a higher divorce rate then blue states.

This is a list of child raping, sex scandals, orgies, so forth by republicans.

More on Newt and his ways with women.

These, well, read it ALL.

Well, I may have more later, hopefully will be able to edit this again.

[edit on 11-5-2005 by James the Lesser]

posted on May, 12 2005 @ 03:59 AM

If even half of these are true then how can people still claim a liberal media bias?



posted on May, 12 2005 @ 02:29 PM
Sad, where is FlyerFan? Where is EdSinger? I mean, when they try to expose the dems/liberals/left wing I come to defend, yet when people actually expose the republicans for what they are, no republican to be seen in a 50 mile radius? SO sad, who are the cowards now? The men who protest a war but fight in it when called upon(dems/liberals) or the ones who support the war but cower with their tail between the legs when called upon to fight in it?(republicans/conservatives)

posted on May, 12 2005 @ 04:13 PM
Bill - all of the ones listed in my first post resulted in police action and formal charges and/or jail time, with three exceptions.
James knocks it out of the ballpark.
Liberal Media? Baahh!

A clear point of distinction - my brother, niece, goddaughter are homosexual, I love them all dearly & it's not a sex preference issue - it's a criminal psychosis/depravity and/or hypocrisy issue.

posted on May, 13 2005 @ 12:31 AM
Wow, even more amazing is that the people who wanted Bill Clinton executed for getting a bj in office are nowhere to be found. Gee, the people who wanted Kerry executed for running against Bush are nowhere to be found. Cowards.

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 03:29 PM
See! The same people who want men who have consensual sex with men killed for it say nothing when they do it. The people who on Justice Sunday were going over the "Final Solution" to the Gay Problem say NOTHING about this. The people who wanted Bill Clinton executed for getting head while in office say NOTHING!

Cowards. Wimps. Liberals.(Since they think liberals are weak, gays, and hippies all rolled into one even though they serve in the military more then republicans do) Proof of that last one? How many liberals got daddy to get them out of the war? Hell, if it weren't for Vietnam Cheney would be single and childless. When the Vietnam War Draft started, the college drop out went back to college to get a pass. Then they said had to be married, couple months later married. Then said had to have kids, look at that! 9months later a kid is born.

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 08:03 PM
This may be Slugfest but that doesn't mean that name calling is allowed.

Decorum folks.

posted on May, 15 2005 @ 08:23 PM
Guys, we have got to stop this. Some of ya know Im a devout Liberal. But this is just blatent bashing. How are we ever going to fix this country if we cant quit picking eachother apart? Please, lets try to understand that neither side is perfect and we both have our strengths and weaknesses. We need to focus on those and stop hitting eachother with a bat. There are freaks in every walk of life. Religon, politics, education, medicine, any field you choose you could dig up the same facts on them that you dug up for the Reps. Im not saying you have to accept them. Just be tolerant.

If you dont listen, I will send you to tolerance camp to make macaroni pictures!

Faaasssttaa. Faaaaaaaasssssstttaaaa. FASTA!

[edit on 5/15/05 by Kidfinger]

posted on May, 16 2005 @ 12:14 AM
With all due respect to seniority board status, as a long time fisherman I
can only assure you boys that if you are "trolling" for Republicans you'll
have to go down another 200ft.....................

posted on May, 16 2005 @ 08:05 AM

Originally posted by Kidfinger
Guys, we have got to stop this. Some of ya know Im a devout Liberal. But this is just blatent bashing. How are we ever going to fix this country if we cant quit picking eachother apart? Please, lets try to understand that neither side is perfect and we both have our strengths and weaknesses. We need to focus on those and stop hitting eachother with a bat.

With all due respect, because the vast majority that can only see two hues paints me in the Liberal camp, and I'll gladly side with the anti-Republican team every time. It's been co-opted to mean something negative, but I don't see it that way.
THe purpose of this thread was to illustrate that there are myriad moral delinquents in the party of marketed moral superiority. To an alarming level.
The only ones using baseball bats are the Republicans - Democrats et al need to bring a bat to a bat fight. They need to bring a gun to a gun fight. They need to go nuke when ones dropped on them. The Republicans have chosen the wepons &utilized them; the opposition has continued to think it's a slap fight.

Lash: I'm a fishing junkie - what have you been out for this season, so far? I know we'd have to go deeper for those GOPers......there hugging the bottom like halibut!

posted on May, 16 2005 @ 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Bout Time

Democrats et al need to bring a bat to a bat fight. They need to bring a gun to a gun fight. They need to go nuke when ones dropped on them. The Republicans have chosen the wepons &utilized them; the opposition has continued to think it's a slap fight.

Why does there have to be a fight?

I didnt say you had to like them, or even accept them. What I said was 'tolerate them' and move on with your life. Look, I am only saying this because I know from experience that you cannot possibly have any better outcome than a draw when debating with Neocons and republicans in general. Yes, they use tactics and phrases that we as Liberals try and refrain from using. But that is what makes us Liberals and Moderates. We will not stoop to that level unless we have no other alternative. Why should we act like them when we are not them? Like I said, you dont have to like them, just tolerate them.

We (both sides) know that there are skeletons in every single closet in Washington. That is nothing new and it will continue as long as America remains. It does nothing but stir up more crap if we keep saying:


Instead, we need to admit that both our parties need to take a long look inward and then move on from there. We will never regain the past Glory of America if we cant all start getting along.

One word of advice. Please take this to heart. I had to learn it the hard way. If you see a thread where someone is trying to bait you, then just dont reply. If you just have to reply, then try not to stir the pot. Simply say:

'You are wrong and here is why......'

If they are NOT wrong, then admit it and go on. It is not like they are going to come kick you butt or anything.

So whats it going to be? Macaroni pictures or a little tolerance and grace that we should be acting with accordingly?

[edit on 5/16/05 by Kidfinger]

posted on May, 17 2005 @ 09:01 AM
link's untenable in application as a catch all philosophy because, as with any broadly applied paradigm, it is spot on covering some issues & woefully short changing others.
You can have debates in your social circles under this philosophy and be successful; hell, it's just being a resonable adult.
The area I'm focusing on, however, is politics as practiced by elected officials. It's an amalgam of public theater & line voting group think - the venue to which the paradigm not only does not apply, but has failed miserably.
The repeated appealing to the lowest common denominator has put the Republicans in power and enabled the gerrymandering that will keep them there.
All the while, Opposition elected officials are looking for a reasonable debate on the issues. As if that's possible with someone stepping on your throat. Hence, the above weapons anology.
Personally, this board stuff is a catharsis; it in no way is a verbatim extension to the way I conduct myself in 3D. I make my livlihood by selling my comapny's services to Corporate America, where many were raised like me - with the perception that the GOP = Business, and that you need not look at details, just vote party lines consistently.
Politics and religion are rarely discussed, if ever. The times that I have encountered it, however, have been declarations of dumbfounded amazement as to how Dim Son got to be 'the man'. All these folks did the Business School Corp Ladder climb like me & it's tough to not be a snob in commenting on someone so obiously unskilled for the roles he's been given.

posted on May, 17 2005 @ 01:45 PM
Know whats sad? Democrats tell the truth, republicans go blind deaf mute. A republican lies, I mean speaks, and they are all ears.

People tell them about Bush and his failures, dodging draft, doing drugs, drinking like a fish, every business he even looks at goes bankrupt, cutting millions from the FBI Anti-Terror budget after they tell him OBL IS GOING TO ATTACK WITH AIRPLANES so he tells them to shut up, invades Iraq for oil, and yet they hear nothing, read nothing, NOTHING! But a republican stands up and says "Vote fgor me or gays will eat your babies!" They all of a sudden make a miraculous recovery and hear this and vote for the guy so the gays don't eat theirt babies.

Apparently 54million suffer from this.

Also, saw the deficit coming. Look in the past, every business he touches turns to ****. He touches the American Business, it turns to ****. But I guess all your businesses turning into **** is good business. How many companies have gone bankrupt the second you touch them BT? None? RUN FOR PRESIDENT! Got a better track record then Bush. I mean, he couldn't find oil in TEXAS! I mean, that's like not being able to find a criminal in a prison, or a white person at a KKK meeting.

posted on May, 18 2005 @ 04:16 AM

Where do you hail from?

Where are you registered to vote?



posted on May, 18 2005 @ 12:08 PM
Ohio, registered voter, first election was the 2004, voted for the lesser of two evils, I mean Kerry. Why?

ANyways, Clinton gets a bj from a consenting adult female, Republicans want him executed. They rape little boys and girls, and the republicans are nowhere to be found.

posted on May, 19 2005 @ 02:22 AM

I was not getting at you I just wanted to know.



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