Originally posted by lukethedrifter
I am a republican
You'd be surprised at the number of "republicans" who have woken up. Although "democrats" are just as gullible in my opinion. And while we are
mentioning the party lines..... the incessant bickering between parties does nothing but aid in creating a public divide. If the people can't unify,
then nothing will change in the immediate future, or as long as the system exists for that matter. But I'm sure that you like everything exactly the
way it is now, correct?
and i can see my country being turned into a tolitarian regime.
Have the storm troppers come and taken you, Dan Rather, Kitty Kelly, and the Senate Democrats away yet? No. What happened?
The world has seen examples of an overnight conversion to fascism. It simply doesn't work, the public is actually very keen in that sense. We've
seen various attempts by madmen, and the swift intervention based on the demand of the public. But the US has become keen to this also, and they now
understand the method by which they can effectively convert to fascism. I'll use an analogy to better help you understand...
I watched my little brother grow up in front of my eyes, but he never really seemed different to me, the changes in his size / mannerisms / voice etc.
were too subtle for me to really take a step back and notice something really different, this was the norm for about 10 years. When I moved out for
the first time, I spent about 4 months away from home, came back, and I was shocked to see how different he was, almost a completely different person.
See being away from him, and coming back, the subtle changes that I saw before were actually big ones, but too slow to notice until I moved away.
This is how they are doing it, and that is why its working very well. Slow and steady wins the race.
not listen to it's citizens,
Wasn't there an election last year? But wait, leading polls by the NYT and Wash Post have more authority over elections.
I'm not even going over this again...I would suggest taking a second to actually read about the last two elections.
to wage wars for money,
That Iraq War is making us a lot of money! Oil prices are lower than ever, and we hardly have any bill to pay whatsoever!
"President Bush announced Sunday that he will ask Congress for $87 billion for U.S. operations next year in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere — $66
billion for military and intelligence efforts, $21 billion for reconstruction. Senior administration officials said the request demonstrates that the
president's commitment to fighting terrorism would not be shaken by the growing financial burden."
I guess that is just "free" money huh? let me clue you in on a little
are making that money that you speak of. And even
more hilarious, the money that they are "making" is US tax dollars.
The sheer brilliance of this is almost as hilarious as the ignorance of the complacent public.
Crack down on freedoms of every american by now passing legislation that will require National ID's.
I don't have an ID card. If you refering to the Patriot act, tell me the last time it was used.
The national IDs will look like just like your state DL, but it will contain proprietary info that is standard for all states, as of now you are in a
state database if you have a drivers license, soon you will also be in a federal database.
and the list goes on and on.
Which means I ran out of ideas and don't want to make up more.
Your desire to bash those who oppose your view is almost as pathetic as your desire to smash people's skepticism. If you aren't being paid by a
gov't agency to disinform us all, you definitely should be. You have the makings of a true patriot.
Is enough enough yet? Whats the next step banning the right to bear arms?
Funny. The Brady Bill just expired. I just picked up an 8 round shotgun and a 12 round rifle.
now for the actual subject of the thread....
The weapons manufacturers have a decent grip on the gov't, and their "financial interests" aren't completely congruent with an NWO scenario upon
first examination. On the other hand, the consequences (ie. knee jerk reaction) to a violent conflict between citizens and the gov't could quite
possibly be a more oppressive regime. And to those that think an armed populace has no chance against an oppressive regime, you forget that in
guerilla warfare, the main source of weapons for the rebel force is the military itself. Their weapons will be used against them.
Now as for the pacifists....
I found some interesting quotes from Orwell, some of which you'd probably agree with and have a pertinence to this thread. He mentions that pacifism
is actually PRO-FASCIST. And his argument is that pacifists simply argue that they can separate themselves from conflict, while still pumping the
oil, and buying the fast food, and paying the taxes that fund it. That really put my head through the loop, and finally gives me a clue as to why the
hippie-granola types bother me like they do. Its one of the ultimate hypocrisies.
Yes all of the things that governments do have the purpose of preserving the western way of life. So if that is your motivation, all the power to
you, just try to not let anything bother you and continue about your day. Actually changing things would entail giving up that way of life. This is
why a huge collapse of this way is the only way, because not enough people are willing to give that up. We can't really do much to hasten the
process, we can only prepare for it. So I guess I'd just say good luck to all those here, if we see a situation like this during our lifetimes.
Just be prepared, learn how to survive without power / food supply / shelter, and you'll have a better chance when it does happen.
[edit on 16-5-2005 by benign]