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Originally posted by AllseeingEYE
If you think this will dispel the myth once and for all, then you are wrong. People will always come to their own conclusions,
I find it interesting that half a dozen masons devote so much of their time on ATS trying to convince others that masonry is not what some claim it to be.
Im a Rosicrucian,
but if someone said we are evil, wizards, anti-christians or something, my attitude would be....... *shrug shoulders* and let them believe what they will.
Originally posted by akilles
You guys really believe that Rosy Cross stuff, huh?
I don't understand how a group that gives you a few philosophical insights owes you its 'membership', or how this is worth paying dues.
There is hardly a gnostic teaching I haven't come across in symbolic or literal form, so what makes the RC so worthy of membership?
I also believe people can believe what ever they want, but I just can't understand some people's rush just to identify with a group.
Although, maybe you guys can share your views on what Rose-Mary's Baby has to do with symbolism, (ie. why were the names, Rose and Mary chosen), as well as Rose Red, in Snow White?
Originally posted by topsecretombomb
if masons arent 'bad' then how come they use magic and witchcraft or study the qabala, which is also studied in the necronomicron bible? (satans bible)
The Mysteries Of Magic' by Eliphas Levi
What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name of Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil. The intellectual Lucifer is the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the paraclete, it is the Holy Spirit, while the physical Lucifer is the great agent of universal magnetism. page 428.
The Book Of Black Magic' by Arthur Edward Waite 33°
First Conjuration Addressed to Emperor Lucifer. Emperor Lucifer, Master and Prince of Rebellious Spirits, I adjure thee to leave thine abode, in what-ever quarter of the world it may be situated and come hither to communicate with me. I command and I conjure thee in the Name of the Mighty Living God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, to appear without noise and without ....; page 244.
The Secret Teaching Of All Ages' by Manly Palmer Hall 33°
I hereby promise the Great Spirit Lucifuge, Prince of Demons, that each year I will bring unto him a human soul to do with as as it may please him, and in return Lucifuge promises to bestow upon me the treasures of the earth and fulfil my every desire for the length of my natural life. If I fail to bring him each year the offering specified above, then my own soul shall be forfeit to him. Signed.....[ Invocant signs pact with his own blood ] ; page CIV.
The Lost Keys Of Freemasonry' by Manly Palmer Hall 33°
When The Mason learns that the Key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the Mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply this energy. page 48.
The Secret Doctrine' by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky
Liberty..Independence..Lucifer is the Logos..the Serpent, the Savior. on pages 171, 225, 255 (Volume II)
It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God. pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 533, (VI)
The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity...but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and Satan' at one and the same time. page 539 (Volume?)
Albert Pike 33°
That which we must say to a crowd is - We worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees - The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay whose deeds prove his cruelty, perdify and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and his priests, calumniate him? Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also god. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods: darkness being necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive. Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.Instructions to the 23 Supreme Councils of the World, July 14, 1889. Recorded by A.C. De La Rive in La Femme et l'Enfant dans la FrancMaconnerie Universelle on page 588
Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the son of the morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with it's splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not! Morals and Dogma page 321
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Hopefully this will dispel the myth once and for all, and everyone will finally understand that the 3rd degree is the highest degree a Freemason can obtain.
Originally posted by Driver
Lucerferian quotes from 33rd degree Masons.
Originally posted by Veriter
i guess each order could have its own principles. i have come to overstand the highest level is the freezing point. 32 degrees. at that point they open the coffin and show you the baby...and tell you the truth of your origin.