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I dont have any proof , i just think that whats happened on 911 was not done by terrorists,i think it was either Israel or your own goverment who did that.
Originally posted by Seekerof
And your proof for your thinking bulldog is what?
Originally posted by koji_K
I don't trust any national group or political entity, but I'll say this, Israel has some balls spying on the U.S. after all the U.S. has done for them. People talk about France "stabbing us in the back" for stuff we've done 60 years ago? Hello? Israel is doing worse, today, while we prop them up, today!
That said, I don't think Israel conducted 9/11 or anything as extreme as that. I've simply seen no convincing proof, and I find it hard to believe they (or any nation-state) would overtly orchestrate such an act. The risks of getting caught are too high, and the payoff just doesn't seem worth it, especially in Israel's case. Proponents of the view Israel had something to do with it usually argue that they did it to get America "involved in a war with their enemies." But, the status quo vis a vis the U.S., Israel, and the Arab world already was in Israel's favor, so what would they have to gain?
-koji K.They gain by you suppling them with the latest armaments and lots of money , we don't get that in Britain being your only ally who doesn't screw you for your dollars. Perhaps you might want to see who benefits from this new surge in terrorism, might be Israel
[edit on 9-5-2005 by koji_K]
[edit on 9-5-2005 by koji_K]
Originally posted by CTID56092
About as far as I could spit a rat!
Any country which elects an indicted war-criminal as its leader has shown its contempt for the rule of law and should be treated as a pariah state.
The US's attitude to Isreal is bizarre. The UK was not trusted for years after blunt / philby etc. Yet it seems that every couple of months Isreal is discovered bribing officials, stealing secrets etc. When this happens the US citizen involved gets prosecuted but his contacts in Mossad etc are never named, are protected and never sanctioned. Why?
US provides $Bn's in aid propping up Isreal, vetoing any criticism of Isreal in the UN, give them latest-generation military kit at prices better than 'free'.
Isreal spies on the US, kills it's sailors and spies on it's military
Originally posted by xmotex
I don't trust the Israeli government at all.
They spy on the US, hand over classified technology to the Chinese, and who knows what else.
The US may be Israel's ally, but Israely is clearly not an ally of the US, except to the extent they can use us to further thier goals for them.
They should not be getting so much as a penny of my tax money.
Originally posted by Bulldog 52
Ive got no agenda against Jewish people, but i think the Israeli secret service might be trying to manipulate America, its just a gut feeling , what do you think?
Originally posted by drogo
why should we trust isrial any less than any other government? ALL governments do the same things. just as isrial traded tech to an enimy of the us. the us has given tech to enimies of isrial. why not as sovern nations they ALL look after their own intrests. NO country is NOT guilty of this.