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The news, anyone else noticing this lately?

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posted on May, 6 2005 @ 11:09 PM
Its been becoming kinda apparent, that the news seems to be numbing us to certain things, for example on fox they are showing bloody corpses now and other things of that nature, This stuff you would generaly see on something like dicovery, or history, but it would be old archival type footage and pretty low quality, But this type of stuff that they are showing now they wouldnt have shown just a few years back, it seems that they are slowly but steadily numbing us to look at this stuff, before long we will be seeing the type of stuff from those "certain websites" on the news daily...

posted on May, 6 2005 @ 11:54 PM
I thought I was the only one notice this.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 12:26 AM
The mainstream TV News is becoming more tabloid every day. This is probably part of that process. They think shocking images like this will get people to watch and boost their ratings.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 12:30 AM
You know what I've notice that also but really didn't think about it too much but yes...that's been occuring more and more soon buns and breast on T.V...

Maybe it a sign of the times?

KOOL CHEWY...keep it in motion

[edit on 7-5-2005 by 2ndSEED]

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 01:10 AM
Showing you more of the truth than you are used to seeing does not constitute as "numbing" you guys need to watch a little film called Control Room. See how news in proximity is dealing with today's current events.
I think it's great, although it's really to late for the already decensitized minds in america. I fear youths will be chearing the gore rather than feeling it within themselves.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 01:38 AM
I think at one point the networks mistakenly though that if they were to broadcast those images, that it would be bad for business, when in fact, this is what people really want to see.

I mean really, some of the best selling shows on TV are already those which exploit the misfortune of others. We have shows where people will intentionally humiliate themselves for money, where only a few years ago, we could only laugh at people humiliating themselves on America's Funniest Home Videos. People are now wanting to degrade themselves in a live broadcast, in controlled and contrived situations, for large amounts of money.

It would only make sense to me, the way these minor humiliations sell so well, that truthful views and images of the ultimate misfortune should sell some trucks and some fast food and some perscription drugs and some beer and some razors and some feminie hygiene products and.... whatever.

The media, who are controlled not by the government, but by the all mighty dollar, and those who hold the most of it, have realized that they can really capitalize on the death and dismemberment of those so unfortunate.

I was just thinking I needed a new truck. See how that works?

[edit on 7-5-2005 by DeltaChaos]

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 01:51 AM
Maybe you don't have a sense of history, but bloody bodies were seen all over the TV during Vietnam.

Back in the late 70's or very early 80's I remember very clearly the photos and footage of bodies from a plane that went down in the Potomac.

Death happens, and people should be made aware of just how grim it is, so they don't go off half cocked with statements like "kill them all, let god sort them out", or "lets just bomb them", etc.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 01:58 AM
Showing dead bodies as a result of war now won't affect any election percentages. The media is for the moment letting a little more reality onto the idiot box, but I'm sure this will change come the 2006 election season.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 02:32 AM
I think it's a good idea to start educating people to the realities of life. I mean people especially in this country are rather well Ignorant on the realities of death and war and so on. I'm sorry if I offend anybody I tried looking for a more "political" word but this subject is a pet peeve of mine. I mean people BLANK and complain about violent movies and video game but it’s the only sense of honest (well it’s exaggerated way too much) violence and harshness we see here. I mean unless you grow up in a particular bleak environment or are unfortunate enough to go through some great tragedy or such in your life there you grow up completely shelter from some of the harsher aspect of human well LIFE in general. I grew up in a pretty harsh environment with a rough crowd and seen way more than I should before I even got to puberty. I mean I’ve been blessed by not having been trapped in my environment and been able to go beyond my neighborhood and mix in with all kinds of different people. I wasn’t even 11 when I saw somebody shot in the face a mere 8 or 10 feet from me, and that wasn’t the first dead or brutally injure person I’ve seen in my life and then it hit me a couple of years back I saw this people it was a family (mom teenage son and daughter) they seem like they were visiting from out of state they practically had a breakdown (I means tears and what look like seizures) from seeing a guy acting tuff mind you with a broken bottle after another person. I mean what made the WW2 generations so great was that they weren’t as shelter as we are today. I mean look at the culture shock that Americans got during Vietnam, mostly the generation that didn’t go through WW2 or the depressing and wear too young to really remember Korea.

I mean think about if we had to go into a war like WW2 with hundreds of thousands of casualties do you really think this country would keep it together? If we had to live with some of the harshness of the third world or the Middle East would we have been so worry about the president getting a BLANKjob. I think a large percentage of American and a growing portion of the industrialize world would faint just what happens in a meat shop or the most humane of slaughter houses. A least a couple hundred years ago we had to at least kill and clean what we had to eat daily. I mean we shouldn’t force people to watch fear factor and faces of death but there hasn’t to be a better balance and more realistic balance than what we currently have especially if we are going to stay on center stage globally as we are. I mean I’ve been to places where people are completely aghast at seeing somebody used a hard tone or given a well deserved slap. I mean the government is scare to show closed, flag-draped coffins for fear of viewer’s sensitivities. I mean my grandmother who was not born here but live the last 30 ought years of her life here could smash a rat’s head with her cane, I’ve seen grown man practically faint and run out of the subways here at the site of rats (granted NYC 12 inch and longer rats) but honestly, some people here see my point. I mean we have these peaceniks here, I mean who in their right minds expect to go through life without any conflict, but someone whose been through some things would have more respect for violence and when it’s called for. I’ve known people who have been violent killed, I’ve known people who have done brutal murders and attacks, I’ve seen gushing knife and gun wounds so I’ve seen the toll it takes on someone’s family to have a love one killed and respect just what it means to do this to another person. I’m well temper I’ve would say I’m more level head than 75-80 percent of the people I’ve interacted outside the so-called hood/ghetto, if I’m force to would be a vicious and more-so than I am force to be in a given situation but all in all I’ve can say that I’ve been even handed and the BIGGER person when it has come to it. It’s like martial arts, for the most part someone who has train to fight and knows how to really damage another person tends to be gentler and more level headed than the average person. I mean I’ve been a bouncer and know many other bouncers even people in UFC type of events and they are generally even headed outside of their proffesions. I mean one must know and respect Violence and when and how much to use when one has to. I’ve carried a knife on me since I was a teen on me from the moment I get dress to when I take my clothes off and have been in fights and not pulled it, almost gotten my BLANK kicked and didn’t put it unless somebody else pulled one or upset the so called boundaries. Like I tell people you set the pace and I’ll keep up, be it one on one, weapons to all out eye for an eye, brother for brother and I’ve still avoided 85% of all confrontations I’ve been involved in. I mean look at our current administrations the hawkish members have never seen combat or serve with the military, hell the most level headed person there was Powell a life long warrior from top to bottom in every sense of the world.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 03:02 AM
Nothing should be held back. War is a nasty thing,and yet America goes to war in a sanitized enviroment so that the citizens only see the victories and none of the bloodshed. The people need to see the flag draped caskets coming home, and the baby faced soldiers going off to war. Then we'll realize that we only send our children to fight while the old farts in power sit home and pull the strings from a safe distance.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 03:43 AM
i noticed that we're being numbed even when it comes to SEX , talking from where i am , scenes are getting more explicit by the month .. i wonder why ?

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 04:01 AM
Yeah but the sex is getting more and more under thumb, look at texas. I growing up seeing what I did, I cannot comprehend even though it disgust me how much sanitze we are to violence here that many americans, particularly religous one would have more problems with their kids seeing a porno or certain music videos than with them seeing the passion of the christ, I mean that movies puts faces of death or most videos coming out of iraq to shame. If I had a kid, even I daughter mind you I would rather have them seeing debbie does dallas than passion of..., I mean ouch, that movie made me a pacifist for half a day, well before I was asking for the lemon marionating prior to nailing him in (ouch, I know someone is going to flame me for that). Ah well remember to turn the other cheek now my good lads and lasses (right adjective?)... back on topic and also remember the whole janet jackson and the Ty owens commercial and the backlash that brought up while they would play most of the Berg beheading and the audio of the more graphic parts. But unless something major happens we are going to see a more concervitive and religious turn in our country especialy when the democrats start trying to got after Bush's coat trails in '08 and pander to the Religious/moral Majority (wow I think 51 or 53 percent of american voted and bush got a couple of million over half that number, say 25-27% of america and they're the majority?) but that's a whole other issue.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 06:27 PM
I don't understand why it is OK to show violence, but it is not cool to show nudity. Show a breast and you will pay $500,000, and each affiliate broadcaster will pay the same. Show someone getting killed, and you pay nothing. In fact, rating go up and not even a slap on the wrist.

Europe, however is the complete opposite.

In the US when it comes to television, we make war, not love. Perhaps it has something to do with overpopulation in the US. Since Europe is a socialist state, they need more people to help pay for everything, so sex before violence. Nothing to back it up, just a thought.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 07:19 PM
The terrorists are burning villages to save them at this point. They are scoring 0 points in their goal to stop the process of forming the govt. The blood is of muslims killed by muslims, not americans, and showing it on the news is exposing a rift in islam, which as americans we dont notice i guess

How long will muslims admire bin laden for this, how long can he be supported? Even some wahabis are beginning to turn on him. I suppose guerillas could keep on forever, but there will come a time when iraq is strong enough to confront their neighbors who support them. If they have any love of their homelands, they need to stop. But i suppose folks who will blow themselves up have little foresight to work out the implications of their suicide.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 07:53 PM

I think it's a good idea to start educating people to the realities of life

Yet another quote worthy statement. I agree.
Our youth and America as a whole needs to be aware of all this.
Now when I say all this Im talking about "Reality" not some action packed
TV show that depicts Dirty Harry as a "real" cop or Rambo as unstoppable.
Im talking about the realities of life. War, street crime and all that jazz.

Todays GENERATION X (Generation kill) over in Iraq are having many stress problems and issues as a result of the REAL GORE and guts they are exposed to. This is due to 20 years of believing that guts don't fall out when you get hit, heads don't explode, people don't piss when they die, and many others. Yeah we all know this and know that all that happens but when we are faced with an encounter and true stessfull situation we forget what we think we know and we rely on what has been embedded in our minds....the TV version of death wich is getting hit and falling down with no guts falling out. Which is why the Marines and troops over there get used to it at a very fast rate......because they are exposed to it.....not fully used to it of course...but they handle it better.
And they will least likely have mental issues as a result of being slowly exposed thrutout thier life before they saw it in flesh and bone, guts and gore.

Im not saying watch violent real life movies....but I am saying that it is OK for people and youth to see a little gore and guts so whenever they are faced with they will not flip out as much and be able to perform,

Young people watch these TV shows and associate what they watch as fact, as reality. When the truth is reality is nothing like that.

Kids play Gorrey games and watch gorry movies and assume that is how it really is......when in fact it is not. Then 30 years later when they are watching the NEWS with thier kids they see a man get his grape blown to pieces and are disgusted by it. It's not real...cause its not like TV the kid thinks.

[edit on 7/5/2005 by SportyMB]

[edit on 7/5/2005 by SportyMB]

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 09:59 PM
Certainly a culturally modern society has a moral obligation to protect its citizens of the brutality of warfare but when such sacrifices are trivialised and taken for granted for its important to refocus what such brave and selfless individuals are fighting for.

They are fighting for the morally superior/western way of life. Arm Chair generals take note.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 10:02 PM
maybe propaganda???

i WISH american tv was like the middle eastern tv...

blood and gore and the TRUE face of war is shown...

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 10:08 PM
I agree with Temp. The media shows us the nice cleaned up version so the average American has no idea the actual caranage and destruction of war. We get the nice cleaned up version. It reminds me of that post last week that some guy showed of actual pics of a body blown up. It was not just some burn marks on the street with a few blood stains. It was of young terrorist bomber from Iraq who blew himself to bits and it showed his torso, arm, legs and such being blown to bits. That is the reality.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 10:12 PM
What would be reported would be hundreds of years behind out ethical and cultural beliefs and may shock may many viewers unnecessarily.

Certainly political and military planners are more capable of incorporating such images and messages into their decisions - that’s their job.

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 10:16 PM
This just made me remember about a shot from Michael Moore's movie about the 911. I remember in Iraq it showd the charred body of a 20 year old marine hung from a wire in Irag, it was missing the head and lower parts of his extremities, but there hanging like a deer from a fresh hunt was this burnt disenembered part of an obivoulsy young man. I cried and cried.

Do I want to see the realities of war? No. Should I see the realities of war? Yes, at least I'm not seeing a Disney version of what is really taking place.

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