Creationists using Mt. St. Helens to support the 6 day theory (from ATSNN)

Originally Posted by Roadscholar
The sad thing about this is the lengths and depths that some will go to in order to try to "prove" that the creation story found in the book of Genesis is meant to be accepted as the completely literal eye-witness account of things that took place before humans even existed, or knew how to write down what they were seeing.

The biblical account of creation is actually a combination of two different creation stories. One is a priestly attempt to explain the beginning of things, the world, plants, animals, people. The other was taken from ancient desert campfire legends.

More information about this can be found in these articles by Doug Linder.

Personally, I find no conflict between the ideas of an omnicient creator and the theories of evolutionary development. In my opinion, science may simply be discovering the method by which God created.

There is plenty of room for both lines of thought in a rational mind.

. According to the emerging philosophy, the canyons took just five months to form, illustrating, Anderson says, that magnificent formations like the lava-carved Grand Coulee about 300 miles to the east and even the Grand Canyon could have been formed virtually overnight by a catastrophic event.

The same flood that was supposed to carve the Grand Canyon was also supposed to lay down the miles of sediment (and a few lava flows) from which the canyon is carved. A single flood cannot do both. Creationists claim that the year of the Flood included several geological events, but that still stretches credulity.

The Grand Canyon contains some major meanders. Upstream of the Grand Canyon, the San Juan River (around Gooseneck State Park, southeast Utah) has some of the most extreme meandering imaginable. The canyon is 1,000 feet high, with the river flowing five miles while progressing one mile as the crow flies (American Southwest n.d.). There is no way a single massive flood could carve this.
Along the Grand Canyon are tributaries, which are as deep as the Grand Canyon itself. These tributaries are roughly perpendicular to the main canyon. A sudden massive flood would not produce such a pattern.

Sorry if I sound harsh, but the person who promotes such argument is just dumb.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Also, why isn't this appropriate for ATSNN?

Originally posted by Aelita
"Wacko" does not include all religious folks. Not by a long shot.

But yes, we at ATS love making fun of wackos when those come along.

There are also atheist wackos.

Originally posted by Roadscholar

Originally posted by Nygdan
Also, why isn't this appropriate for ATSNN?

In my humble opinion, the story itself is quite worthy, yes. The intro and argument could have used some work, though.

It seems to me that ATSNN.com is set up as a news portal site than any viewer in the world may stumble upon. We want to put our best face forward, no?

Nothing personal to Mpeake at all...it's a good find and definately ATS topic material. I was hoping that he might make some corrections to the intro and argument before it got downgraded.

Originally posted by Jakko
Yes but atheist are usually not target in the ATS news section, because of the general anti-religion/anti-christianity sentiments on ATS.

Originally posted by NygdanThats bs. There is a wide variety of people that post in ATS, from atheists to hard core religious extremists. The moderates outnumber the extremists, and I suspect that the actual atheists are outnumbered by the extremists.

Originally posted by Legalizer
Does "athiest news" exist?

The christians around here use their empty faith for everything.
Often giving dead end advice for things they have no qualifications to be giving advice for.
They promote the existane of invisible entities as an explanation for anything that crosses their path.

It really makes this site look lame. "Deny ignorance" is turned into "ignore facts, embrace faith".

People have experience with sleep paralysis and these uneducated nut jobs start spouting stuff about demon attack. People report very obvious symptoms of mental illness and the fanatics automatically start spouting "prayer is the answer" hogwash. People report the bizarre experiences they have in organized religions and the zealots automatically go into denial mode.

This is the 21st century, not the 15th century. The earth is round, not flat.

Originally posted by James the Lesser
"Not all christians are like that." I am sure, just like not all Nazi's wanted to kill the Jews, they just weren't very many.

When you watch tv/read newspapers what do you see? Christians running around like chickend screaming the sky is falling when say, science again proves the bible to be wrong, again.