Howard, we need to take drastic action. I know we haven't terminated anyone with extreme prejudice for over a month now, but one of the subjects has stumbled onto the facts.

And I have discovered the true cause of chemtrails... ANGEL FARTS! big, nasty, odorous, high altitude angel farts...

I don't think we have any choice. If the reptoids find this out, we'll be hamburger (literally) at the next meeting.

Originally posted by LazarusTheLong

Howard Roark... as much as I admire Ayn Rand... I must say, you defy the principle... I doubt a true objectivist would sully themselves with nasty comments about others, just wastes time...
but you do have an interesting intelligent style... I will wait and see...

I try, but sometimes it is hard to remain perfectly objective in the face of unending ignorance.

And just for the record...
chemtrails are real!

And I have discovered the true cause of chemtrails...
ANGEL FARTS! big, nasty, odorous, high altitude angel farts...

OOPs, OTS, you are right. We will have to get one of the angels to play the Haarp for Laz.

Joint self-satirising derisiveness
Yes, I suppose it works
Can't play an old working trick too many times
Self-deprecation disguising coy knowingness always wins many friends

[edit on 13-5-2005 by dh]

I read through all the similar stuff that is similarly posted about chemtrails, yet my question was never answered:

Why don't they just spray us with chemicals on overcast days so no-one will notice? Any reasoning behind the blatant chemical attacks when obvioulsy a day that has several rainstorms......which would spread chemicals much better......suffice?

Why do they almost only occur on relatively clear days??? That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Originally posted by PistolPete
I read through all the similar stuff that is similarly posted about chemtrails, yet my question was never answered:

Why don't they just spray us with chemicals on overcast days so no-one will notice? Any reasoning behind the blatant chemical attacks when obvioulsy a day that has several rainstorms......which would spread chemicals much better......suffice?

Why do they almost only occur on relatively clear days??? That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Because that would be logical, but the whole 'chemtrail' theory completely lacks any common sense to begin with, in my opinion.

Doing it on overcast days would be the best, it would allow whatever the supposed chemical is, to actually reach the ground. Where as on clear days, the mist/spray will stay up in the air and take days (weeks?) to actually reach the ground. Plus by the time it would reach the ground, it will have been blow so far off course, that it won't really matter anymore.

I always get a kick out of people who say they feel sick when they see 'chemtrails' up in the sky. It makes no sense at all. How can they feel sick when the mist/spray is still 30,000km up in the air?

Joint self-satirising derisiveness
Yes, I suppose it works
Can't play an old working trick too many times
Self-deprecation disguising coy knowingness always wins many friends

It's also a socially-acceptable way of laughing with some people (like laz and each other) at others (further deponent sayeth not).

You only observe it on clear days
On overcast days and at night they do it also
You cant take pics of it at these times
Only on erstwhile clear days - obvious ain't it?

You only observe it on clear days
On overcast days and at night they do it also
You cant take pics of it at these times
Only on erstwhile clear days - obvious ain't it?

Well Duh,

Since chemtrails don't exist (at least no chemtrail believer has been able to prove it), it can't be "obvious" now can it?

-Traveler

air polution is a real problem.seeding weather projects are real.would you not spray something in the atmosphere to fix ozone problems.it does not cost that much to dump chemicals on farmers fields to protect food.so whats the problem here.people really care that chemicals are in the air and could make you ill.nobody cares about factorys ,cars and other stuff.look around you does anyone really care about earth.this is not my idea but i feel i must give a negetive responce to a reality that most dont care about.chemtrails are here so what else is new..........

I only learnt what chemtrails were about a week ago after reading this thread and watching the video, but i actually seen them for the first time today!

I live in the North-East of England and today was a very sunny and clear day compared to our normal bad weather.
I was walking with my G/friend to the shop when i noticed them, there was 8 all together, 4 in each direction criss-crossing each other.
I would have passed them as contrails but these seemed much larger, lower and hung in the air for at least 45 minutes (maybe more because i went in the house and stopped watching).

Just thought id let you all know because my Girlfriend thought i was just plain weird for knowing what they were....lol

I'd bet you'd impress your girlfreind even more by not being a patsy for every crackpot internet hoax out there.

Have you even bothered to learn about the meteorology behind the formation of contrails?

semantics folks...
Chemtrails do exist... so lets get the terminology correct...
a weather modification program is a true life example of "chemtrails"
a airborne contaminant study is a form of "chemtrail"
a terrorism drill using crop dusters (midwest) and radioactive dust is "chemtrail"

a heavy dose of smog from an airplane is a "chemtrail"

it is not these that are in question... or is it?
these programs happen everyday in america somewhere... who is to say that the "observations of chemtrails" were not observations of these?

it is only a question of "what percentage" are true chemtrails...
5%...10%....50%
if anyone knows for sure... let me know...

until then, it is both true and false...

[edit on 31-5-2005 by LazarusTheLong]

HowardRoark, Would you consider to retire my quote from your signature?
Im sure there a few possible candidates from Laz.

Like this one

quote: a heavy dose of smog from a airplane is a "chemtrail"

At least consider it

Fiar enough.

You know Iv'e got about two pages in an M.S. word doc of these. When I get to three, I'll repost them all.

Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
Chemtrails do exist... so lets get the terminology correct...
a weather modification program is a true life example of "chemtrails"
a airborne contaminant study is a form of "chemtrail"
a terrorism drill using crop dusters (midwest) and radioactive dust is "chemtrail"

a heavy dose of smog from a airplane is a "chemtrail"

it is not these that are in question... or is it?
these programs happen everyday in america somewhere... who is to say that the "observations of chemtrails" were not observations of these?

it is only a question of "what percentage" are true chemtrails...
5%...10%....50%
if anyone knows for sure... let me know...

until then, it is both true and false...

exactly true, lazarus. until known, it is both true and false.
this is the reason that fuzzy logic is the most effecient way to look at the world. the fuzzy way is to keep both possibilities as undetermined, and let a a panalopy of other factors be also true and false. the more complex the matrix of possibilities narrows the field of possible outcomes because certain truths and falsehoods cancel each other out.

in linear logic, we would consider that the probability of chemtrails is low, due to the array of factors pointed out by the fine minds of howard, and OTS.
however, the analysis style of the debunkers is to isolate each factor, DETERMINE IT TRUE OR FALSE, and then move on to the next factor. this creates a lexicon built on ASSUMPTIONS, as NOTHING is clearly true or false when described by human language.
there ARE chemtrails, and this has been admitted by the chemtrail truth control squad. that's right, howard and OTS, you have both admitted that it is not 'just water' in jet exhaust, so a contrail is, by nature, a chemtrail.
now is it:
mostly chemical?
a lot of chemical?
50/50?
a little chemical?
hardly chemical?


in that picture, i would say it's mostly chemical, seeing as it's not even coming from the engines. but, OF COURSE!, the photo is 'faked'.
fuzzy billybob believes the picture is mostly fake and mostly real.