Possible Alien Agenda? - Containment

our subconscious interprits what we read 200,000,000 ways, before we decide consciously which 1 way serves us most. it is our languages and religions that combine to give our subconscious 199,999,999 other possible interpritations of everything we experience.

there for the word dictionary could mean "if you look at it through the perspective of the word .......

y=why
r=our
a=part of our, a
tion=zion (t sound is more like shhh, zzzz=sleep)
cid=kid

why our part of our zion kid dic zion is our why?

impossible you say? then what has happened to the additional 199,999,999 thoughts that preceded your conscious experience?

why were the most ancient of written languages written without vowels and from right to left?

if you've heard of it, your subconscious acts upon it. sometimes without you even knowing how it chose to interprit it, hence the necessary release or medium for the subconscious is dreams. hence the necessity for sleep.

know of anyone who has went weeks without sleep? how do you think they achieve that?

Thanks for clearing that up for us ET.

I feel like I'm talking to a Salvidor Dali painting.

Spiderjdali

[edit on 6/3/2005 by Spiderj]

Originally posted by Spiderj
clutter is as clutter does.

My sentiments exactly.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
y=why
r=our
a=part of our, a
tion=zion (t sound is more like shhh, zzzz=sleep)
cid=kid

What does this spell? Y-R-A-TION-CID, which makes about as much sense as you do.

What does this have to do with this particular discussion?
If you would like to teach someone what it is your saying, start a new thread. This was a good discussion we had (started a month ago) and it is my opinion that you derailed it. Thanks for your enlightenment.

Back to the topic.

In the original hypothesis, the idea was that after we went to the Moon, we stopped going and haven’t done anything else since, because we were told not to. But I think it was because of other reasons. Many didn’t think we were getting much in return for the expense, and it was too dangerous. Once we reached the goal and beat the Russians to the Moon, we couldn’t justify the continued expense. I also think as someone mentioned that they saw UFO’s along the way, and on the Moon. But I don’t think it was to scare us, they may have just been watching or witnessing an historic event. I’m sure that the idea of alien bystanders had probably crossed their minds and may have been mentally prepared for it.

So why did we stop? Why haven’t we continued the normal coarse and go to Mars? I think it is because it is a much longer trip, and hence the success of a mission would be much lower. Plus, in order to return, it would require just as much fuel as it does to get back into orbit as it does on Earth and would have to be brought along. This is far more difficult than a trip to the Moon.

Maybe we are allowed to explore space, but not allowed to weaponize it. If we send up weapons like they are talking about, I have a feeling they will probably be mysteriously destroyed. Maybe this will get the point across.

As far as being aware that we are contained, I would not use cows as an analogy. We are obviously aware of it because here we are discussing it. I think it is a good hypothesis, but I think I would refine it to not being allowed to weaponize space instead of total containment. Just my 2 cents.

Its more like a Alien/Human agenda. We are in on it. Not us exactly (me and you), Governments. IE. America for sure, Russia, Japan etc. The powers that be know well about what goes on outside Earth.

Any alien species trying to deny us travel through space, or access to the rest of the galaxy (or even our own solar system!) should be considered an enemy. They are trying to stall human evolution, and turn Earth into a prison, rather than a launch point for human civilization.

Also, any alien species that has the technology to travel through interstellar space should not feel threatened by simple nuclear weapons. They may consider it an important turning point in the evolution of our species, but if their technology is as good as claimed, they should not consider nuclear weapons (or any other weapons on Earth) a threat to them.

Are we being Contained... hmmm. My initial response is no, but I realize that (A) I would want to feel that way even if it were true and (B) It might be being done so well that it totally escapes all of my senses and intuitions.

There are basic human reasons for most of what we have done in Space but that does not mean that there cannot be secret reasons as well. I am reasonably sure we have all sorts of weapons in space (we in this case being the USA mostly). I heard about someone joking about making a crop circle with something from space, not hard to believe.

Still do not think anyone really knows all that much, but we have made the most of what we have learned. I think what we do not know does still throw a scare into certain agencies.

I guess I still see it as we have not gotten all that much help, and what we have learned has taken a while to put to use.

A.T
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Originally posted by Hal9000

Originally posted by Spiderj
clutter is as clutter does.

My sentiments exactly.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
What does this spell? Y-R-A-TION-CID, which makes about as much sense as you do.

thanks.

What does this have to do with this particular discussion?[/qoute]
more than you obviously can currently comprehend.

If you would like to teach someone what it is your saying, start a new thread. This was a good discussion we had (started a month ago) and it is my opinion that you derailed it. Thanks for your enlightenment.

" ........ and it is my opinion that you derailed it."

opinion:

everyones' brain works in accordance with the same prudent programming.

everyones' brain operates with the "law of association" which dictates that you can not , yes CAN NOT learn anything as true if you can not attach it to an already accepted truth that is consciously accepted.

so what does your opinion at the core of all your opinions mean to the educating world? which is to say, what is the basis for your current opinion, your current state of mind?

1) your instinct in each of your cells (at the cellular level) were encoded with "self preserve" which means self before you serve (anything, or anyone).

2) your first thought was only "i am" or "i exist"

3) fear / afraid
3a- mother's heart rate increased
3b- pain from being squeezed
3c- mother's screaming
3d- cold for the first time
3e- the cord that has been your source of nutrients/oxygen/waste
removal was cut.
3f- you had no control, neck muscles incapable of moving or holding up
your head, eyes blinded by light and not able to focus, legs you were
barely aware of, arms that don't work ...... fear "fear". fear that
stemmed from primal self preserve.

4) your 3rd thought "i am not alone". you were aided in breathing, nostrils suctioned, mouth suctioned, wiped down, dried off, cleaned up, put on mother's chest. people happy, mother's kiss.

an open eye on , excuse me OPINION is too us:

SELF BEFORE I SERVE ANYTHING OR ANYONE + I AM/I EXIST + AFRAID + I AM NOT ALONE = OPINION

"Thanks for your enlightenment."

my enlightenment?

don't take my word for any of it, but if your opinion is at contrast with those who were enlightened, perhaps it's your brain's hardwiring ..... your opinion that prevents the possibility of you comprehending the truth.

perhaps it would help you to review ......... true enlightenment before your opinion allows you to discredit enlightenment itself.

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Back to the topic. ........


Maybe we are allowed to explore space, but not allowed to weaponize it. If we send up weapons like they are talking about, I have a feeling they will probably be mysteriously destroyed. Maybe this will get the point across. .........................

perfect!!!
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As far as being aware that we are contained, I would not use cows as an analogy. We are obviously aware of it because here we are discussing it. I think it is a good hypothesis, but I think I would refine it to not being allowed to weaponize space instead of total containment. Just my 2 cents.

perhaps not containment, but advancement.

perhaps they don't want fear and hate spreading out among the stars.

have you ever had a few in depth conversations with someone who has been in space, or thier immediate family, or thier co-astronauts? i grew up across the street from steve nagel, the 101st astronaut and highly achieved in his field. (google). I am not attempting to waste your time.

our goals are the same, i assure you. but if you can not even acknowledge what has happened to the other 199,999,999 possible interpritations of any 1 given experience before you consciously intergrated just 1 of the possibilities, i can not be permitted (by you) to offer you any assistance.


I am not attempting to waste your time.

[edit on 4/6/05 by Esoteric Teacher]

E.T.,

I am probably going to get more than a few groans for responding to you, but I still feel the need to establish some reasonable level of communication.

our subconscious interprits what we read 200,000,000 ways, before we decide consciously which 1 way serves us most. it is our languages and religions that combine to give our subconscious 199,999,999 other possible interpritations of everything we experience.

I would say this somewhat differently "Our subcon evaluates millions of possible connotations and alternatives and selects that which is most useful." To say we choose this directly is just incorrect.

Just a little bit of advice from someone who has spent years teaching things that have a tendency to make one's mind ache from the excercise, start with language that people can understand. Set the framework of what you wish to discuss in a simple manner and then proceed to the meat.

Any other way is just a waste of time because no one can listen or learn from what you say. If you really feel that you have learned something significant then you owe it to others to explain in a way that makes some sense. I have encountered people who talk as you do before, and many of them had NOTHING under the surface. Cross-examination and simple logic has sent most back to hiding and ranting at the ignorance of the rest of the World for not seeing things as they do.

This is a Forum about Aliens, and as such we should be prepared for people who use a form of logic that is hard to understand. But that does not mean we have to accept just anything anyone says. Convince us you know something and you will find people willing to learn.

I am willing to bend my brain as much as necessary, but you have to meet me, and us, half-way.


A.T
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