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reply posted on 3-5-2005 @ 12:23 PM by Jedi_Master
Howdy folks...

Yea that was posted here a few months back...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And the debunkers were debunked there as well...

And nobody still can explain, how in 1967, he was able to create a suit that good ( heck, at the time hollywood couldn't do it ), with little monetary means ( the guy wasn't rich)...

As a matter of fact ( I'll have to find the link ), there are 2 instititions, offering $100,000 each for someone who can do it with 1967 tech....

Heck if he did hoax it, he could have made a lot more money denounceing it as a hoax, and went to work for Hollywood's special effects dept...


reply posted on 3-5-2005 @ 02:46 PM by Jedi_Master
Yep I read them...

I guess you stopped there huh?

If you read a littel further you would have seen these...


Dmitri Donskoy
Anthropologist David Daegling reports that the only formal academic study of the Patterson film was conducted by Dmitri Donskoy of Moscow’s Darwin Museum. (Daegling, 45) Krantz describes Donskoy’s conclusion as being that the film depicts “a very massive animal that is definitely not a human being.” (Krantz, 92)


Grieves noted that "I can see the muscle masses in the appropriate places ... If it is a fake, it is an extremely clever one." (Hunter and Dahinden, 120) Also like Krantz, Greive thought the figure's shoulder's were quite broad. He notes that a tall human is consistent with the figure's height, but also notes that for a tall human, "The shoulder breadth however would be difficult to achieve without giving an unnatural appearance to the arm swing and shoulder contours."[2] (home.clara.net...)


Grover Krantz
Krantz offered an in-depth examination of the Patterson film. (Krantz, 87 - 124) He concluded the film depicts a genuine, unknown creature, citing the following factors, among others:

Primarily, Krantz’s argument is based on a detailed analysis of the figure’s stride, center of gravity, and biomechanics. Krantz argues that the creature’s leg and foot motions are quite different from a human’s and could not have been duplicated by a person wearing a suit.

Krantz pointed out the tremendous width of the creature's shoulders--which he estimated at about three feet across--arguing there was no way a suited person could mimic this and still have the naturalistic hand and arm motions present on the film.

Krantz and others have noted naturalistic-looking musculature ( Hunter and Dahinden note that ”the bottom of the figure’s head seems to become part of the heavy back and shoulder muscles ... the muscles of the buttocks were distinct” Hunter and Dahinden, 114) visible as the creature moved, arguing this would be highly difficult or impossible to fake.

Krantz also interviewed Patterson extensively, and as noted below, thought Patterson lacked the technical skill and knowledge needed to create such a realistic-looking costume.

Krantz reports that in 1969 John Green (who at one point owned a first-generation copy of the original Patterson film) interviewed Disney executive Ken Peterson, who after viewing the Patterson film, asserted “that their technicians would not be able to duplicate the film.”(Krantz, 93) Krantz argues that if Disney personnel (among the best special effects experts of their era) were unable to duplicate the film, there’s little liklihood that Patterson could have done so. (Krantz, 121)

More recently, Krantz showed the film to Gordon Valient, a researcher for Nike shoes, who he says “made some rather useful observations about some rather unhuman movements he could see.” (ibid


en.wikipedia.org...

I could go on and on, on the quotes but might get hit with an excessive quoting...

But you see, if Disney coundn't do it at the time, how could Patterson ??



reply posted on 3-5-2005 @ 03:11 PM by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
...and the smirking chimp



I'm getting a little tired of cheap shots at the President regarding his facial expressions, which by the way, are consistent with human facial expressions found to be universal.

But, while we are comparing chiimps to politicians, how about these:



[edit on 05/5/3 by GradyPhilpott]


reply posted on 3-5-2005 @ 03:20 PM by Zipdot
Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
Occam's Razor ... is also the unrelenting skeptic's favourite reference when attempting to appear intellectual amidst his or her closed mindedness.


Hear that? That's the sound of my delicate pseudo-intellectual facade shattering as it hits the floor. I am naked! You have depantsed me in front of everyone!

Originally posted by Jedi_Master
I could go on and on, on the quotes but might get hit with an excessive quoting...
But you see, if Disney coundn't do it at the time, how could Patterson ??


There is a reason that this video is not taken seriously by anybody serious. Only scientists with no respect and nothing to lose will attach their names to such affirmative "studies," and even still, the most they will allow is, "It may not be fake." Is this because it's the best they can come up with or is it because they are afraid of a total debunk to come along?

I did read several of those and I got nothing from them besides "one scientist says he sees no butt muscles and another says the butt is firm and scrumptious."

Don't underestimate the artistically and technically-inept Disney executive's desire for the video to be real.

Here, take it from the yocals that might have made it: a reproduction by the supposed original perpetrators:

www.findarticles.com...
www.roswell.org...

I can't view that video from work, so I offer no opinion. I'd also like to add that I didn't set out to debunk the damn video, I was just expressing why ***I*** didn't think it was real.

Zip
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