Overpopulation: how to control it?, page 3
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reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 01:17 AM by JPhish
reply to post by pteridine



i agree with you most of the way, but don't you mean currently self limiting?

i believe that if we could get passed the hate and greed that is holding our species back, we would have unlimited potential for growth; particularly taking into consideration the prospect of colonizing planets comparable to our own.


reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 11:33 AM by pteridine
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I believe that it is more than "current." Crowded cities and international trade helped spread the bubonic plague. Colonization by Europe and the US led to wars. Lack of empire caused Japan to twist the Bushido code into a manifesto for war. Nazi Germany needed 'liebensraum." Stalin made some nasty decisions that eliminated millions. The Irish potato famine was a result of a monoculture crop failure coupled with English landlords. Mayan and Incan civilizations seem to have suffered because of overdevelopment and sudden climatic change. Easter island inhabitants ran out of resources and died off. I am not a historian but there are many such events throughout history that will show that the human population [and the population of other species] is self limiting.


reply posted on 5-12-2009 @ 03:16 PM by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by LostInAMelody



Who's policy is Overpopulation Control?
Is there a think tank somewhere?


reply posted on 11-6-2010 @ 07:45 PM by JaRod7
Subject: Responsibility

To all Honorable Humans of sensitivity, compassion, and logic, in truth you all are brothers and sisters. It perhaps comes "too-late" to issue this as a warning, for these events have already begun to unfold. WE have begun to Kill the Oceans of the Earth.

WE have caused the Extinction of so many Species in the Seas, in the Air, on the Land - Species we shall never see on this Earth again. WE have caused the Air, the Lands, and the Seas to become filled with so many different Toxins that more will die, the babies will die, people will die from horrible ways by numbers in the hundreds of thousands.

WE are responsible for all of this. So many among us have demanded the 'Material Happiness' at 'Any-Cost'. Now see what has resulted from the demands for more and more. Do WE kill the Earth for "just one more toy, new car" "for just one more thing?"

This Earth is our only Home, alone here in the vast Space. If Earth Dies, WE die with it, when life can no longer be sustained - WE become extinct. Prepare your GrandChildren, for most of them may be the last of the Human Beings.

The only hope in this, is to recognize that WE are self-responsible for the damage, and that WE are self-responsible for fixing the Damage. No one is going to come to our aid. The Galactic Federation will not seal that deep well belching toxic Hydrocarbons. The Extraterrestrials will not regulate our runaway Overpopulation. No Spacecraft will drop down with loads of trees to replant the forests. It's up to us. It's our Responsibility. WE have to fix the problems here ourselves.

The Earth’s population is plagued by famines, energy shortages, epidemics, environmental pollution, degeneration, terrorism, dictatorship, anarchism, slavery, excessive increase of waste materials, racial hatred, food shortages, destruction of rain forests, the “greenhouse effect”, pollution of lakes, streams and oceans, hatred towards asylum-seekers; radioactive emissions, chemical pollution of water, air, plants, food, human beings and animals.

Crime, murder, mass murders, manslaughter; alcoholism, hatred of strangers, oppression, hatred of one’s fellowman, extremism, sectarianism, drug addiction, overpopulation, annihilation of animal species, war, violence, torture and capital punishment, general mismanagement, water contamination, eradication of plant species; hatred, vice, jealousy, lovelessness, lack of logic, false humanitarianism, lack of housing, increased traffic, destruction of arable land, unemployment, the collapse of health care, the collapse of care for the elderly, destruction of nature, the collapse of solid waste removal, and the lack of living space, among others.

In spite of the many efforts, mankind’s problems are not decreasing but, instead, continue to rise steadily in direct proportion to population increases.

Mankind’s horrendous ills originate from and exist through overpopulation with its unrelenting, irresponsibly continuing escalation. The situation dictates that any ill can only be fought and remedied by grasping it by its roots, ripping it out and destroying it: The numbers of terrestrial humankind must be drastically reduced.

The only humane method by which this reduction goal can be achieved, is through stringent birth control regulations that permit married couples, of a predetermined age, to have only a strictly specified number of children.


reply posted on 12-6-2010 @ 12:50 AM by ghostsoldier
It's going to naturally peak at around 9 or 12 billion (can't remember, and too lazy to look for links) and then begin to naturally decrease - the main reason being that parents are have the privilege of knowing that they don't need to have 5-8 kids to know that 1 or 2 of their children will survive into adulthood and economic reasons of course (women are setting up carreers first) therefor parents are older and only have time to make 1 or 2 children.

There is just a lag.

We just have to wait for the older generations to die out.

VIDEO: Fred Pearce - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Fred Pearce, the author of the new book "The Coming Population Crash and Our Planet's Surprising Future," talked to Jon Stewart last night about his surprisingly optimistic view of the Earth's future. He explained that there has been a huge population decrease in the past generation: women today have half as many children as they did a generation ago. This phenomenon is happening all over the world, Pearce said, not just in developing countries. And this self-made population control is very good for our planet and for our species.

In the book, Pearce looks at the history of environmentalism and population control, and shows that while in the past countries like China have enforced state-run population control, now people are doing it on their own. Why is this good for our society? "If we have an older society, we'll have a wiser society," Pearce suggested. The 20th century, he said, was a "teenage century," but the 21st will be much more mature. "By 2040, we should have a stable population," he said.
VIDEO: Fred Pearce - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart


[edit on 12/6/10 by ghostsoldier]
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