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Originally posted by Gazrok
My guess is that the thread mentioned was closed due to the original, opening post simply being a link to a You-Tube vid, with zero comment by the original poster... (I didn't close it, so can only speculate on the motive)...
Still though, myself, I wouldn't have locked it, but maybe just given kind of a nudge to the poster to please provide their own thoughts on it, etc. vs. just providing a link.
Originally posted by kidflash2008
I do have some problems with this case and here are a few of them:
The original report made out by Sgt Penniston make no reference to the writing he allegedly saw. He also claims to have been a few hundred feet away from the object in that same report. Later on, he talks of walking up and touching the object.
Jim Penniston and John Burroughs went to investigate the craft together. However, there is a major inconsistency in separate interviews of Jim Penniston and John Burroughs. In an interview with Larry King on 9 November 2007, Jim Penniston claimed that he did a 45 minutes full investigation of the craft on the ground, touched the craft and took photos of the craft. However, in a separate interview in Robert Stack's Unsolved Mysteries, John Burroughs described that after suddenly encountering the craft on the ground, "we all hit the ground, and it went up into the trees". The interviews with Jim Penniston and John Burroughs have subsequently been made available on Youtube.
Originally posted by FireMoon
reply to post by Arbitrageur
Not the old lighthouse explanation yet again. That one has been well and truly buried by someone actually bothering to do a proper investigation on it.
Link to the transcript and full 18 minutes tape: www.rendlesham-incident.co.uk... This is the cut version of Col. Charles Halt´s tape which he recorded during the UFO incident that took place in Rendlesham Forest and on the US airforce bases Bentwaters and Woodbridge in dec.1980. Col. Charles Halt used the tape recorder to document important moments and details during their investigation that lasted over several hours that night. The total lenght of the tape is 18 minutes but this version has been shortened into 6 minutes in order to fit into youtube. It starts just before Charles Halt´s team´s first sighting and ends when they are back at the base.
It is interesting how Halt said 'suspected impact point' as if an object had crashed into the forest, I suppose this is what led researchers in the early years to suspect that the unknown object had actually crashed into the forest; we now know this to be incorrect. Although there have been rumours about 'craters', none have ever been found and none of the witnesses have spoken of a real 'crash'.
Lt. Colonel Halt carried a handheld tape recorder, he used it to make notes which he could then replay later on. Colonel Halt picked up two blank tapes, although he has claimed that he only used one which would hold about twenty minutes of audio. It is possible that the tape is edited. Halt initially denied that Sgt. Adrian Bustinza was with his patrol, but his voice can be clearly heard on the tape, see 'Bustinza requests light-alls' above. Halt later admitted that Bustinza 'could have been' with his patrol'. Bustinza along with Battram and Warren claim that they found a landed object in the field outside Rendlesham Forest, I believe Halt had a good reason for denying that Bustinza was with him - maybe there really was a landed object. In 1999, while speaking to Georgina Bruni (author of "You Can't Tell The People") Halt admitted that he had 4-5 hours of tape relating to the incident that she or no one else would ever be able to hear, although he said that these were recorded after the incident.
One of the most important points about the tape, which has been over-looked many times, is that the animals in the forest and on a nearby farm go into a 'frenzy' only seconds before the UFO is spotted. In my opinion, this is too much of a coincidence. I had previously said, "of course the forest's animals would have been disturbed - there were numerous men running around the forest, they were shouting had bright flashlights."However now I think I was wrong to say this. Here is the section of the tape in question:
Lt. Colonel Halt: 01.48. We're hearing some strange sounds out of the farmers... Sgt. Nevilles: Twenty eight....seven... (still operating the geiger counter) Lt. Colonel Halt: barnyard animals. They're very, very active and making an awful lot of noise. Sgt. Nevilles: definite pigmentation. (Lt Englund spotted the light first, he shouts to Halt) Lt. Colonel Halt: You saw a light? Slow down. Where, where? Sgt. Nevilles (spots UFO too): Right on this position here. Straight ahead in between the trees.
There is no break in the tape. There are only seconds between the point where the animals are heard going into a 'frenzy' and the point where the UFO is spotted. Is this evidence of a UFO physically interacting with the surrounding environment? The Halt Tape was first given to UFO researchers Harry Harris and Dot Street by Colonel Conrad in 1984 - he found the tape in his office, the office had been Halt's a short while before. Since then, many copies were made. Most were of low quality, on some Halt's voice is almost impossible to understand. We now have the original, which digital copies were made from - it is much clearer and allows most background conversation to be heard.