Have I Disturbed Some One? (Revisited)

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posted on Aug, 20 2003 @ 08:12 AM
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I'm just curious, does your husband smoke in the house, whevever he wants? Some spirits might consider this a form of disrespect, esp. if they're Native or something.

hope things get better. Remember they say that all the evil in the world can not stand up to one pure good soul. Perhaps some meditation would help. This could be esp. true if you believe that things like sage, etc. reinforce positiveness through you, and not themselves (like magical talimans).

cheers
ktpr




posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 06:16 AM
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Well, quite a respite, huh? There has been nothing at all odd happen in my house since the last time I reported such...

until last night.

I went to bed about 11:30 and just about the time I was falling asleep was awakened by a sound in my attic..a BIG sound! I have never heard anything in the attic before.

So this wakes me from partial sleep and I have that confusion of "did I just get woke up by something? or start having a dream?" I instantly decide the latter and never fully wake up when another BIG sound comes from the attic. For the next 30 minutes plus I lived through repeated bumps-in-the-night-stuff. With the most frightening part being when the springs on the pull-down door to the attic started creaking like some one was starting to open it
HELLO!

The only thing that we have done in the past few days that is different is Springer got up in the attic Saturday and enclosed the screened louvers in the widow's watch for the winter. We leave them uncovered for the summer so that we can run the attic fan on cooler days and then of course it was time to cover them so we wouldn't lose heat for the winter.

I tried hard to make myself believe that I was hearing an animal up there, but if so it was intent on moving things around...kind of large things.

It was freaky! I actually was scared enough I wanted to come get back on line and tell somebody...but the attic door is between my bedroom and the computer room! HA!



[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Valhall]


any

posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 03:38 PM
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Eesh, that's creepy.
This is actually the thread that made me sign up for ATS, I'd lost it until now, thanks for bringin it back up Valhall.
I can honestly say that I have never, ever experienced ghostly phenomena in any house I've lived in, I get the feeling that ghosts like to keep their distance from me. Now my sister, she's had loads of it.



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 05:49 PM
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Thanks Dany,

My daughter and I are going to tape the attic door closed this evening...with 300 mile an hour gray duct tape. I call it that because it was used to keep the rotor blades of the Apache attack choppers from delaminating back in the early 90's when they couldn't get proper funding to replace the blades.

One would think it would be sufficient to hold the door closed if the problem is a coon...

right?


any

posted on Oct, 28 2003 @ 06:18 AM
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Unless it's a genetically modified racoon sent by the government to spy on you...





posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 09:53 PM
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I may be a little late in replying to this, but from what I'm reading in all your posts is that you may have created or stumbled upon a time rift or opened up a parallel universe.

It seems that all the things that you are describing may have happened or will happen and are being created or re-created because of the rift.

I would defenitely research the house, the people who have lived in it since the day it was built, and even the land itself. Chances are there may have been another house or multiple houses built on the same property.

Additionally, have you cut down any of the trees in the yard? As big as they are, they may have some history as well. Who knows...the trees may have been gallows at some time or another.

As long as you felt no negative energy when you first entered the house, then chances are what's going on there wont bother you...but I would check with other family members to see if they feel any negative energy.

Let us know what you find on the history of the house and the land. If you need any help researching any of it, feel free to send me a message. I'm really good at researching stuff. Additionally, I have a friend that is a clairvoyant, and she can help as well.



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 10:06 PM
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Reference your tape recorder, you may want to run each incident into your computer using some kind of audio editing software (ie. Cool Edit 2000). What this will do is show any peaks in the audio, and with the software you can amplify these peaks to see if you can hear anything audible.



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 10:31 PM
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Ok...just finished reading the entire thread....wow.

It seems that the instances have stopped since you had that "prayer meeting". But this also seems to be about the same time that your husband said you had stopped doing any major physical changes to the house...except for what needed to be done to keep the house from falling down.

So, what it sounds like is that you disturbed the spirits that are there and affected them somehow, but stopping what you were doing has put them back at rest.

I still wonder about one of the initial incidents, though, where your son said he heard you crying and yelling. That has yet to be explained. I still have the feeling that all the major work on the house and the yard disturbed things enough to create a rift.



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 10:40 PM
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With the most frightening part being when the springs on the pull-down door to the attic started creaking like some one was starting to open it HELLO!


This is REALLY creepy! Whatever it was that made your grandson wave and than immediately terrify the little fellow doesn't sound too nice. The renovation you and your husband are doing to the house appears to be...... disturbing some spirits. However, they didn't seem that nice, in the beginning
I think I would call in a ghost-buster or something.

This is a real interesting thread, but I wouldn't want to be in your shoes Valhall. My UFO's aren't so frightening now compared to your situation. Keep us informed okay? Take care. Oh I'm glad to see the "Prayer Meeting" helped.


[Edited on 09/08/2002 by MountainStar]



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 10:47 PM
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Imalreadypsycho did a reading on my house via a photo I posted. I believe that he hit very close to home on some things because of what my research into the history of the house has shown.

Here is what I have found out:

First off, every one who has owned the house has died in the house (I don't mean that scary like, I mean...they lived here until they got old and died!) I am the fourth owner.

The builder can be pretty much ruled out.

The second family cannot.

Imalreadypsycho sensed an abusive person in the past. He speculated that my 2 year old grandson had seen some one come throught he door, waved at that person, and then that person became verbally abusive with him. IAP speculates that this person was an alcoholic and abusive. The second family matches this scenario.

BUT, the third family was very, very weird. And just in the past 2 months I have learned that one of the children (the man and woman had no children of their own, but adopted a girl and boy) committed suicide...what is unclear is whether it occurred in this house or the boy left the house first.

Anyway, there are two families in the line that are in question.

And there is a history of alcohol abuse in both of those families.

The second family is VERY suspicious as to the man being physically abusive/unfaithful, etc. Which could make what my son heard more understandable.

One thing I have not mentioned in this thread is that there are meat-hooks in the cellar. They protrude from the cellar ceiling. When we first bought the house, I assumed they were there because the house was built in 1905 and that would have been a normal thing to find for curing meats.

Unfortunately, we have now found that the cellar was not built until much later. So the need for the hooks becomes rather hard to explain! The second owner of the house was a grocer. And he actually got in trouble with the law for doing less that honest stuff with his meat. I don't know if something was going on in the cellar or not, but I'm just giving you the information I have.

I agree with you that if there is no ill-feeling about the house, I should not be concerned. I have had no ill feeling in the house.

Unfortunately, that is not the case for my son. And that is true even since the prayer meeting. The attic incident happened since the prayer meeting as well. The attic incident is actually kind of hard to explain. Had it happened repeatedly I would have been more inclined to believe a squirrel or raccoon was up there (though I haven't got a clue how they could get in). But since it was that one night...I don't know.



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 10:49 PM
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have you tried to call Dolly Partons psychick hotline
1-800-big-ti$$$



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 10:51 PM
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No, I haven't. But in all of this, there has been no evidence that big-tits are the problem...so for the time being. I'll just keep that number in my back pocket...k?




posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 10:52 PM
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By the way...your story would make for an excellent movie.



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 10:56 PM
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Actually, when you sit here and read through this thread it probably gives you the sense that all hell is breaking loose here. But really it is long periods of nothing interrupted by very brief instances of something. I think that's why I haven't gotten too alarmed. The periods in between things happening are so long I just forget about stuff and then...

something happens. And I have another long respite. Mainly boring...occasionally scary. I have tried to be good about sharing when something happens. I'll try to keep that up.



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 11:07 PM
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Well! I guess I better do what I just committed to do!

We had something happen three days ago. It had been pretty cool here and we had had the gas heaters going. But Monday it started warming up. So when I came home I turned off all the gas heaters.

There is one in the upstairs bath. You have to leave the door open to let the heat come into the rest of the upstairs. During the week, it is only me and my daughter here. The kids know that the door has to be open when the gas heater is going (and it's pretty self-apparent if you ever close the door when the heater is going because you then walk into a stifling sauna!). Anyway, I turned the heater off.

Later, I came out of the computer room to go the restroom. Since I had turned the heater off, the door was closed. When I opened the door I got pelted with a heat wave because the heater was on. I just think to myself "well, I thought I turned that off"...and then I turned it off, again.

Later that evening I go to put linens up and when I open the door I get pelted with a heat wave. The heater's on! So this time I call my daughter and I asked her "are you turning this heater back on!?!" (rather upset like). And she answers "Mom! I don't even know how to turn the heater on."

And I believe her, because the darned things hard to light. It has a three-position knob - off, pilot, on. You have to push down and click through the ignition at the pilot, let up and let it the pilot burn well, then push back down and turn through to light the burner. Most times, you have to go through lighting the pilot about 3 times before it catches.

SO! Beats the crap out of me...but I turned that heater off 3 times that night!



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 11:36 PM
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Imalreadypsycho sensed an abusive person in the past. He speculated that my 2 year old grandson had seen some one come throught he door, waved at that person, and then that person became verbally abusive with him. IAP speculates that this person was an alcoholic and abusive. The second family matches this scenario.


That's sounds very possible. And, like you said, could have been the reason your son heard the female voice. I'm sure if the man of the house was an alcoholic and abusive that there was quite a few fights within that house. That could also be why you're husband hasn't heard or seen much of this, but the rest of the family has.


And there is a history of alcohol abuse in both of those families.


I would watch for increased alcohol use within your family (if any at all). Not saying that it will happen, but sometimes traits within a situation like this get carried on. I've heard of many stories where there have been past occurances in a house and those occurances have passed on to the new owners/occupants.


One thing I have not mentioned in this thread is that there are meat-hooks in the cellar. They protrude from the cellar ceiling. When we first bought the house, I assumed they were there because the house was built in 1905 and that would have been a normal thing to find for curing meats. Unfortunately, we have now found that the cellar was not built until much later. So the need for the hooks becomes rather hard to explain! The second owner of the house was a grocer. And he actually got in trouble with the law for doing less that honest stuff with his meat. I don't know if something was going on in the cellar or not, but I'm just giving you the information I have.


There are meat hooks, but no form of refrigeration? Hmmm....very suspicious. Are the walls and floor of the cellar solid concrete or are they rock, such as cobblestone? It seems that a house of this age may have cobblestone on the walls, and maybe even a dirt floor. If it's cobblestone, look for loose rocks...what's behind them may tell a story too.

You may want to do a little more history on this grocer guy as well. I get bad vibes on him.


Unfortunately, that is not the case for my son.


Is he just uneasy because the events have occured, or did he get negative vibes from the time you moved into the house? If he's just uneasy, then there's nothing to worry about, but if the negative vibes have been there since you moved in, then I would be concerned.

Now that I think about it, this seems to center around the boys in the family. Your grandson saw the man, and your son also heard the female voice - and is feeling uneasy about the whole thing. But you haven't mentioned much about your husband at all.

It's possible that in the houses history there were events involving boys or young men. I would check police records as far back as you can go to see if there were ever any instances that occured there involving boys or young men. Especially with that grocer guy.


The attic incident happened since the prayer meeting as well. The attic incident is actually kind of hard to explain. Had it happened repeatedly I would have been more inclined to believe a squirrel or raccoon was up there (though I haven't got a clue how they could get in). But since it was that one night...I don't know.


Again, this brings me back to the boys/young men theory. Perhaps, within one of the families, the boy(s) were locked in the attic and/or cellar for some reason - possibly as a form of punishment.

From the sound of it, there's spirits there that need closure. And, I'm sure they've sensed you're moving in that direction, so that may be why they haven't bothered you in some time.

Let me know what you find out.



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 11:39 PM
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Holy chit..... Meat hooks in the cellar!

Heaters coming on by themselves!!
I think another "Prayer Meeting" is in order.



posted on Nov, 12 2003 @ 11:49 PM
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I agree with elderban. I have bad vibes concerning the grocer guy too....



posted on Nov, 13 2003 @ 02:21 AM
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The little guardian beings are ordered to keep themselves secret and it appears that the child saw one of them and was happy, but the being quickly made an ugly face to scare the child's mind away from getting to familiar with it. imo

The voice that sounded like yours was a guardian being stirring up sympathy for you. It feels your stress level and wants to help you, so it made a scene that would arouse compassion for you in the people that heard the crying. It was a trick.

Now that you've moved into an old house the spiritual guardians your family has know that whatever they do will be attributed to ghosts of some kind. Secrecy is the key and so long as you believe in ghosts then the beings will feel free to create manifestations every now and then. You'll have to use psychology on them to get them to come clean. It takes a bit of thought but it's worth it. Leave them at peace however because they're not supposed to make their real identities known. That's why one of them scared the child away a little. imo



posted on Nov, 13 2003 @ 02:25 AM
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My guess about the heater is that your daughter's guardian is switching it on because you haven't taught your daughter how to do it yet. Teach her how to do it and then the phenomenon will probably cease.





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