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Originally posted by twitchy
Ho Chi Mihn actually appealed to the United States first for help, we ignored him, and kept ignoring him until he appealed for help from the Soviet Union, then and only then did the US get involved in the Vietnam conflict.
On April 30th 1975 Siagon fell. It would be another 98 days before I would be free from the bamboo cage that had been my home for the previous 210 days in Cambodia.
Originally posted by dirk d
Seekerof
As always, a great focus. I love your work. Thanks for the ref. Im not sure I buy the spread of Comm. thing in whole. Its more a Western rewrite than truth. I say that as an onlooker in 2005 and not a soldier in the 60s and 70s. The threat was real for sure but the real goals of the war where hidden from the public and still are.
Originally posted by Seekerof
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Truman Doctrine was placed in 1947.
Domino Theory by Eisenhower in early 1950.
The US got involved primarily because of our support of France and secondarily, because of the containment policy. When France got booted out of Vietnam [Dein Bein Phu],the US picked up the cause strictly for and because of the containment policy.
The US failure in Vietnam is directly linked to the policy of Communist containment.
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Originally posted by curme
Originally posted by DrHoracid
I would strongly encourage each of you out there to read this. It may be shocking to many of you to learn a little truth about "nam". On April 30th 1975 Siagon fell. It would be another 98 days before I would be free from the bamboo cage that had been my home for the previous 210 days in Cambodia.
God bless you "Chet" where ever you are..........
God bless America Too.................
[edit on 30-4-2005 by DrHoracid]
Did I read that right? Are you saying you were held prisoner for 308 days? Or are you talking about "Chet"?
Originally posted by Corinthas
Truth about vietnam?
The US was "saving" the south from ITESLF... not the North as was implied. The south was taught the lesson so many South Americans had to learn: anyone who stands in the way of US globalism with pettly things like popular social movements and demands for healthcare will be anihilated. The war with the north was purely to force the north to make a move against US troops in the south, and give them a reason for war: The commies are coming!!
Commies, for those too young to remember, was what we called terrorists back then, and is basically an excuse for the US to kill again and again and again.
Really funny here is the CIA being charged to find links between Hanoi and either (!) Moscow or Bejing... but they couldn't find any. Does that sound like WMD to you?
[edit on 2/5/2005 by Corinthas]
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Yet again a inept attempt at rewriting history to suit your agenda. What kind of weapons did the NVA use? Gezz let me see........ahh they were AK-47's and pretty much from the communist block. SAM missles. Russian tanks..........MIG aircraft.........I would say that was a SMALL link.................
THR TRUCH NEVER SLEEPS...THE FALL OF SAIGON CAN NOT FIND THE WAYS OF AMERICAN NATIONS AS US IS UNDER FULL CONTROL OF ISREAL.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
April 30, 2005 -- THE spectacular fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975, 30 years ago, had Americans glued to their television sets. Millions watched as long lines snaked up stairs at the American Embassy waiting to be rescued by the U.S. military.
It had been barely 10 years since the first U.S. Marine combat troops arrived in Vietnam at Danang. That decade had been punctuated by premature proclamations of victory, promises of "light at the end of the tunnel" and a Tet offensive that effectively destroyed the Viet Cong, but remained a potent Communist propaganda coup in Western media.
www.nypost.com...
I would strongly encourage each of you out there to read this. It may be shocking to many of you to learn a little truth about "nam". On April 30th 1975 Siagon fell. It would be another 98 days before I would be free from the bamboo cage that had been my home for the previous 210 days in Cambodia.
God bless you "Chet" where ever you are..........
God bless America Too.................
[edit on 30-4-2005 by DrHoracid]
Originally posted by Corinthas
There is no such thing as "communism" an sich. It like calling all icecream just "icecream"; there are lots of flavours of it (Leninism and Stalinism in the UDSSR, Maoism in China etc.). So the thought that there were "idependant" communist countries that did not get their agendas straight from Moscow esccaped the US for a long time, coz thats how the US run their empire: puppet states run from Washington.
Back to Diem and Vietnam again.
[edit on 2/5/2005 by Corinthas]
Originally posted by DrHoracid
God bless America Too.................
They took me to the hospital and I still don't know what the did with Chet. Been trying to find out for 30 years. He took that hit for me.
The brass said I was some kind of "hero".........they gave me this thing to pin on my chest..........BS......Chet was the hero.........he died in my place and I still don't know where he "is" today.
Sorry for the RANT.............became a psychologist to understand why Chet took that hit and why I'm still here and he isn't.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
The brass said I was some kind of "hero".........they gave me this thing to pin on my chest..........BS......Chet was the hero.........he died in my place and I still don't know where he "is" today.
Sorry for the RANT.............became a psychologist to understand why Chet took that hit and why I'm still here and he isn't.
Ok enough now. I talked to damn much about this, just still pissed off.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Discussing "flavors" of communisum is like discussing the different "flavors" of deadly snakes.....No one really cares which it whcih becuase each are deadly, each are snakes, each should be destroyed on sight.
Originally posted by Corinthas
So the thought that there were "idependant" communist countries that did not get their agendas straight from Moscow esccaped the US for a long time, coz thats how the US run their empire: puppet states run from Washington.