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Originally posted by babloyi
"God cannot tolerate sin in his presence".
Originally posted by jake1997
No it dont. Dont know what you see there, but you should goto Revelation for that particular outcome
Originally posted by jake1997
The outcome happened when Jesus rose
or will happen at the beginning of the trib
or mid trib
The point is, it happens.
God is slow to judge you, what makes you think He would be fast on anyone else?
Originally posted by shmick25
jake1997, I want to understand something, seeing you didnt answer my question.
This is the situation that you portray to me.
When we die, we go to STRAIGHT to heaven or hell.
Yet, God has not had the chance to judge us yet???? As stated will happen in revelation..?? what the..
So then we wait until the second coming when the good people already in heaven get sucked back down to the sinful earth (and all those from hell get put back to earth as well) so God can seperate the sheep from the goats again. Then once again the good people go back up to heaven and the bad ones go to hell. What the...!!
Yet, God being all loving, enables Hell and sin to co-exist forever?
He will tollerate this??? All the good folk in heaven will be oh so happy to worship a God who willingly allows their loved ones to be tourched forever?? Maybe he could be likened to Sadam??
And when we die, if we go straight to hell (our souls that is), how will our souls be tourmented? Fire can only hurt flesh and bone...
Show me
But in a verse you quoted me it stated that our Souls go straight back to God? So are you not contradicting yourself with your own logic?
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
And where in the Bible does it talk about an immortal soul? If we go straight to heaven or hell then you are saying that our soul is importal.
God removed access to immortality in the Garden of Eden. Immortality is only available for those whose names are written in the Book of life. (i.e that is why the book is called the book of life).
So by saying that hell exists forever, this means that God never defeats evil, Satan is never destroyed and God is not a God of love.
Well now that I have made you more informed about the bible, perhaps you can try to justify your sin with more skill?
Maybe you should start believing in some similar Egyption pagan beliefs. :bnghd:
Jake I wonder sometimes if you have any happiness in your life at all.
The way you post looks like you are obsessed with Jesus and salvation
quote: But in a verse you quoted me it stated that our Souls go straight back to God? So are you not contradicting yourself with your own logic?Show me
Rev 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. Check that out. Who is that? Its not angels. Its humans. They are in heaven and the trib hasnt even kicked off yet. Some think they are the apostles and the 12 patriarchs. Dunno.
Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Check out those guys. What are they doing there in heaven? The trib just started , the 4 horsemen have just been released, and these guys are in heaven already.
One is in the lake, the other put him there. I guess the victory is full enough for God. Then you turn around and Judge God to not be a God of love. whatever. Take it up with HIM
Well now that I have made you more informed about the bible, perhaps you can try to justify your sin with more skill?
Thats what this is about isnt it? Cant find it in yourself to bow to God, so you try to villify God in order to make yourself sound and feel better?
That is the boat that 90% come from before they find out the truth. Listen for it as you browse the forum and youll see.
Glad I could help
I know that you will recognize that lapi has 'remade' the anti-christian point.
They hate you and are intolerant of you... So they scream out that you are full of hate, and are intolerant for not adopting their view.
They scream out their idea of christianity, when in fact 99% have no clue what christ is or what he taught.
Well done lapi. You have proven where you stand.
I once wrote the following to you (see below) and you said that I was taking the position of the “anti-christ”!!!
And you calling a fellow brother in Christ an "anti-christ"