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Black Triangles Re-Examined.

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posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 09:52 PM
In the mystery involving the mysterious flying black triangles, many people have claimed that these silent objects are all really top secret govornment projects. Nothing could be further from the truth. Some sightings of black triangle UFOs are indeed sightings of super secret projects like the Aurora or the TR-3B. But these two craft can only account for maybe half the sightings of black triangles. The rest, are indeed a true mystery, and in my opinion, are extraterrestrial spacecraft.

I shall provide the following link from NIDS to make a few points.

Black Triangles Examined

Indeed, British researcher Victor Kean, who started Project Triangle on the world wide web tracked many triangle reports in Britain that took place in the 1990s, but pointed out that his first reliable triangle report dates from September 8, 1960. This was a "triangular-shaped craft with three white apex lights and a red light underneath," seen in Tyneside, Britain and two other locations that evening, all within a 10 mile radius and within 75 minutes of each other. Did someone invent flying triangles in the 1950s? [7]

Now the above object is an exact description of what was tracked and photographed over Belguim in 1990. The problem is that it was sighted 30 years prior. Flying triangles were not even on top secret black project drawing boards until about the 1970s, and none of those were really capable of doing much. So here we have an example of how chronologically, the blanket statement that the black triangles are all products of top secret US aircraft projects does not fit the evidence.

I wonder whether the TR-3A or TR-3B explain the following sighting:

On this occasion, a clear fall night in Hastings, Minnesota, multiple witnesses saw a triangular craft approach from the east at a high rate of speed. When it was nearly overhead at about 5,000 feet, it "stopped dead in its tracks." The object had a reddish orange light at each of its corners; these lights sometimes turned greenish. It sat motionless and silent for half a minute, then made a slow 180 degree turn, "leaving a vapor trail." It then sat motionless for a few seconds and took off at an amazing speed. It stopped dead at a point about 15 miles away from them. It then lifted straight up "at incredible speed" and was gone. The object in question certainly seems to have had much in common with the Belgian triangle, except it was seen in mid-October of 1968. As far as I know, this report has not been investigated, but there are quite a few triangle reports on NUFORC that stem from the late 1960s. Most of these reports provide good detail and appear to be truthful. These are available for anyone to read.

And then there are, of course, the Hudson Valley sightings of the early 80's, of which I made a thread about a few months earlier:

Hudson Valley UFO Wave

As we can see, chronologically, the Manta or Aurora cannot possible be responsible for the above cases.

Now, here, I shall post in following an example of a few cases where we have examples of sightings of what were indeed US top secret govornment craft, as we have excellent witnesses and details showing that these were indeed exotic, yet very terrestrial, craft.

First, from the NUFORC site, by a man of good credentials in Texas, who was able to see English writing on the bottom of the craft for an emergency release hatch of some sort:

Military Craft Sighting in Sydney, Texas

There is no doubt in any intelligent persons mind, after reading this report, that this man saw a secret dirgible or special propulsion aircraft.

There is also the case of Chris Gibson, former Royal Observer Corps member and a recognized expert in aircraft identification, who observed a black isosceles in a refueling operation over the north sea. This case can be read in the above NIDS link I provided. Since it was involved in a refueling operation with a known US Air Force Tanker, the KC-135, we know that the Air Force was operating this vehicle.

Thus, we can clearly draw a distinction here, in seeing that the black triangle phenomenon is made up of two sources, one of which is the black world of secret aircraft projects, the other, source and agency completely unknown, and best evidence points to some sort of extraterrestrial space craft.

And there are some very interesting differences between sightings of black project craft and those sightings that can only be classed as very strange. In most cases of Aurora or Manta sightings, if the craft was seen taking off at very high speeds, they were also accompanied by a resulting "sky quake", basically a very hopped up version of the sonic boom. The stranger cases, however, defy conventional known laws of physicas, with the objects in question taking off at high speeds without a sound. No known cases of Aurora or Manta sightings involve said craft hovering and shooting light beams down onto electric substations or nuclear power plants, a behavior that has been very common in cases where the craft was not of known govornment origin. Also, size is another telling factor: I have never seen in sightings of black project aircraft where the size of the craft was compared to stadiums, fields, or entire cities, a factor that basically rules out secret aircraft being responsible for the Phoenix lights or Hudson Valley sightings.

So my conclusions, based on my own personal research into the black triangle mystery, is that in some cases, it is indeed secret projects, dirgibles, the Aurora, responsible for the incidents. In other cases, however, the evidence pretty much rules out any sort of terrestrial machine and leaves the possibilities open as to what they might be.

On a side note, I do believe that both the Manta and Aurora were both results of reverse engineering of alien technology gathered either from Roswell, or subsequent crashes and recoveries thereafter.

posted on Apr, 29 2005 @ 08:48 AM
For further reading and insight, I'd suggest taking a look at NUFORC's much older case reports, from the late 60's and 70's, showing that triangle sightings predate the earliest US govornment tests for them.

Again, black triangles are nothing new, but have been reported clear back in the 1950's, with rumors that they may have been spotted as early as the 40's and 30's, however, hardly any reports of any UFOs were taken back then, since the UFO phenomenon had not gained public attention until around the time of Kenneth Arnold's sighting, and then, Roswell.

posted on Apr, 29 2005 @ 09:00 AM
Excellent post, and intriguing angle...

Another point for two different origins, is that some of the triangles seen are way too huge to be of any "hideable" terrestrial craft.

In most cases of Aurora or Manta sightings, if the craft was seen taking off at very high speeds, they were also accompanied by a resulting "sky quake", basically a very hopped up version of the sonic boom.

I wonder if this is what's responsible for the booms in FL lately? As I mentioned, I actually heard the second occurrance of this (which wasn't reported in the press btw, as it was only about a week or so after the first that made headlines here). Having grown up around supersonic planes (Lockheed brat), I'm pretty accustomed to what they sound like, but this was like NOTHING I'd ever heard before...

posted on Apr, 29 2005 @ 09:16 AM
Could very well be, Gazrok. I have heard many reports that sound like the Aurora, or from people who believe it to be the Aurora, and a commonality in the reports is a really weird "boom" or skyquake. People who were actually closer to said craft when they kicked off into hypersonic speed have reported very loud thunderous cracks that they described as like the sky was getting ripped apart.

Since you're in Florida, which is space exploration central, id not be surprised if youre experiencing a number of flybys. Unfortunately, tho, from what Ive heard, the Aurora is like lightning: Once youve heard the crackle of thunder, its long gone. Unlikely youll get to see the thing.

Sounds like what they were experiencing in L.A., which, being in the flight path of Grrom lake/Area 51, more than likely was getting flyovers from the Aurora during its first development stages.

But you are right: the supersized "flying cities" seen by many witnesses pretty much do not conform to any known technology or law of physicas, and hiding such a fleet of beasts from prying eyes would be pretty damn difficult. That, and the fact that aeronautically speaking, its still pretty much impossible to build anything that big, get it in the air, and then get it to perform the physics defying maneuvers observed by witnesses.

However, if you have a good camera with yoiu, keep it handy, maybe you mgiht get lucky and catch the Aurora off guard!

posted on Apr, 29 2005 @ 09:20 AM

I saw a concept scetch of the aroura. it looks like the lights on the bottom would illuminate it.

posted on Apr, 29 2005 @ 09:29 AM

However, if you have a good camera with yoiu, keep it handy, maybe you mgiht get lucky and catch the Aurora off guard!

When I heard the boom, my camera was quickly in hand and I was out in the yard. Having heard regular booms all my life, I'm pretty good at looking where the craft is based on how the boom resounds....just out of instinct. I couldn't see anything anywhere, and it was a clear and relatively cloudless morning, nice and sunny, etc. and I have a pretty big unobscured view outside...

A few minutes later, I then heard more normal sounding sub-sonic jet engines and then spotted a lone F18, but the initial boom was no F18 (or at least not a normal one). What's more, the F18 was doing some strange maneuvering, not flying straight, so I don't know what that was all about, at one point diving towards Tampa Bay, before being obscured by neighboring trees.

posted on Apr, 29 2005 @ 10:39 AM
Nice post Skadi.

Also a good link to the Aurora. I've seen so many different ideas to what the Aurora is, I didn't know what to think. But this looks like an article from Simon himself?

One thing though, it doesn't appear that the Aurora has gravity drive propulsion, so would be incapable of hovering. This would mean it could not be a possible craft for any of those accounts.

posted on Apr, 29 2005 @ 11:58 AM
guys, they have a GREAT pic (although distant) pic of a black triangle in the skies of new orleans, over at

they also zoom in ot what may be an escort of some kind for it...

posted on Apr, 29 2005 @ 05:27 PM
Here's a report from a Physicist & an FAA Licensed Pilot who saw a black triangular craft with estimated dimensions of about 60 feet wide and 80 feet long and 10 feet thick at the rear while walking home from hunting. He had a rifle with an 8.5 power riflescope. He pointed his rifle @ it & looked into the riflecope to get a closer view of the object.

The object approached from the south-southwest and while moving north-north east, passed almost directly overhead making no sound whatsoever. I estimate its altitude to be somewhere about 800 feet and its airspeed speed approximately 30 mph. It "floated" and did not fly as it obviously had insufficient airspeed to fly.

This machine was directly over me and I was alone in the middle of nowhere, therefore, I felt quite "uneasy." It made no threatening moves whatsoever, but I aimed my rifle at it and through the riflescope, which was set on 8.5 power, I could clearly see surface detail in explicit detail...This marking was absolutely shocking, as I could actually read it! It was white print outlined in black on a red arrow pointing toward a rectangle of sorts. The arrow pointed at a something rectangular that I cannot define, but I clearly could read these three words, “EMERGENCY RELEASE and RESCUE.” In the same place were other words that appeared too fuzzy to read. I suspect that these words were “PULL FOR...” Instantly I realized that this was a military machine and no “flying saucer.” I felt much better as I knew that these were surface details that were intended to help rescue people access and then be able to remove the pilots on board in the event of a crash.

Based on this report, it could very well be that some of these small triangular craft are man-made, however, this craft was not reported to have taken off @ great speed, as some people have reported. There are also reports of very large triangular craft collapsing into a ball of light, then taking off into space.

[edit on 29-4-2005 by evilution]

posted on Apr, 29 2005 @ 08:59 PM

Originally posted by el cid
guys, they have a GREAT pic (although distant) pic of a black triangle in the skies of new orleans, over at

they also zoom in ot what may be an escort of some kind for it...

That one looks really similar to the Belgian triangle. Thats a pretty good photo.

Evilution, I posted that paticular case at the beginning of the thread. I think the safe conclusion based on that mans testimony was that it was indeed some sort of US air craft.

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