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Originally posted by sebatwerk
You left out the part about where we marry teenage virgins and eat babies. :bnghd:
Originally posted by spamandham
Come on now. Everyone knows it's only us atheists who eat babies. Our feet stink too and we don't love Jesus.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by spamandham
Come on now. Everyone knows it's only us atheists who eat babies. Our feet stink too and we don't love Jesus.
Actually, I fear fundamentalists of ANY religion more than anything else. They are some scary kinda dudes!
seriously i agree that every1 should have their opinion. satanist, becuase what you have just come out with is rather funny. im not being nasty... but my father is a mason and my grandfather was a mason and they DID NOT worship the devil.... and for rich business like persons. that is laughable because we live in a counsil house! ok just expersing my opinion cheers x oni x x
Originally posted by akilles
But there have been individuals involved with both the use of occult magick and Freemasonry.
So if Freemasons wish to stop the accusations that secrets are being kept from them and US, and that they are a group with Spiritual teachings, they should just drop all the Ritual.
Seems like a nice simple way to clean up the mess? Of course, they could replace the ritual, no sense in keeping them from doing that!
Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
If you are so Curious Akilles - then why don't you Join?
Originally posted by Asteroid
Before you can be come a Member of FreeMasons you have to be able to ride a Goat around the grassed areas of the F/M Hall. Before you go inside for some grazing (supper). Thats what my work-mate told me.....
Originally posted by akilles
I didn't say they should get rid of anything.
I said the rituals should be erased, deleted, whatever.
And I want to see the new rituals that Freemasons THEMSELVES design to replace the old, while still incorporating all the old teachings, surely something could be added?
This is really what I am most curious about, is how Freemasonry would develop if it continued to use its ancient teachings, but was able to make the rituals over in any image it chose.
Or is the purpose of the ritual to be ancient, and mystifying?
Originally posted by akilles
I didn't say they should get rid of anything.
I said the rituals should be erased, deleted, whatever.
And I want to see the new rituals that Freemasons THEMSELVES design to replace the old, while still incorporating all the old teachings, surely something could be added?
This is really what I am most curious about, is how Freemasonry would develop if it continued to use its ancient teachings, but was able to make the rituals over in any image it chose.
Or is the purpose of the ritual to be ancient, and mystifying?
Originally posted by intrepid
Yet another admonition to not circumvent the censors.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by intrepid
Yet another admonition to not circumvent the censors.
Sorry. I just don't understand how Akilles can think that Freemasonry owes him some kind of explanation, or revelation, of what it does. It's none of his damn business or concern, as he is not a Freemason.