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reply posted on 17-7-2005 @ 04:47 PM by Jamuhn

'But,' says this writer, 'if you are inclined to pay compliments to an administration, which we do not complain of,' (meaning the Marquis of Rockingham's at the repeal of the Stamp Act) 'it is very unfair in you to withhold them from that prince, by whose NOD ALONE they were permitted to do anything.' this is toryism with a witness! Here is idolatry even without a mask: And he who can calmly hear, and digest such doctrine, hath forfeited his claim to rationality an apostate from the order of manhood; and ought to be considered as one, who hath, not only given up the proper dignity of a man, but sunk himself beneath the rank of animals, and contemptibly crawl through the world like a worm.


I took the meaning of this passage to mean that we should pay homage to a leader for the mere reason that they could more abusive to their subjects had they wanted to. Should we praise a man because they can abuse their power to an even greater extent, but don't? Should we not question injustice because it could be worse?

This passage provides insight into discussion that we should be happy with our freedom in the US, in respect to other countries, and in respect of how much our government could take away. As Paine alludes and according to the principles this country was founded upon, all men are equal, and free to pursue happiness and freedom as long as it does not infringe on others. Humans by nature were not inherently born into subordination. Instead of focusing on the freedom, which is our natural right to have, we must focus on what is contrary to nature in taking our freedoms away.

Therefore, policies like the Patriot Act should be regarded in what it takes away from our natural rights, instead of diverting the issue to the freedoms we still have. Why should we be content in scratching our noses, when we cannot scratch any other part of our body?

That is the real issue regarding freedom in America, whereas, we started out with a broad range of freedom at the beginning of the Constitution of the United States and in the history of man, and only throughout the ages, have these been slowly eroding, and continually doing so. So, in light of these progressions, it is our duty as human beings to regain what natural rights we have lost because of the interest of a few.


reply posted on 31-1-2010 @ 01:03 PM by Casing
The Sons of Liberty ARE up and running.

americanlibertyriders.ning.com...

quote:

ACTION NOT WORDS--NOW !!!!!
RIDERS Organizing to Support and Defend This Country
We Believe: Freedom and Liberty from More Government Intrustion, Spending, and Taxes. ALL People are created Free and Equal

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it cost nothing to be a patriot." - Mark Twain

We are LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS, WE SEEK A PEACEFUL SOLUTION
In addition to welcoming members of any other organizations or affiliation, Sons of Liberty also welcomes non-riders and supporters.

Sons Of Liberty is a political movement of riders and supporters and as such has: No Club Back Patch, NON-Territorial, Not a M/C,ALL Patriots Welcome

end quote

not trying to recruit or anything, just letting you see proof they are back... If this is the group you have been talking about anyway (I did not read every post from 2003 etc.)

Casing


reply posted on 31-1-2010 @ 01:21 PM by seataka
A History Lesson Link to Source

The Sons of Liberty & John Wilkes

In many descriptions of the early years prior to the American Revolution, I found references to secretive groups called "Sons of Liberty", which spontaneously, and independently organized throughout the colonies, in response to abuses to liberty by agents of the Crown..

I did extensive keyword searches for `Sons of Liberty', before there was an internet, at the Savannah Public Library and what follows are my findings and how it relates to the Internet today.

. The 'Sons of Liberty' were a secret society, with many members of influence, one of whom was Paul Revere, in Boston. The Boston Sons of Liberty would meet in the `Long Room' above a tavern called `The Dragon', which had a copperplate of a dragon on its sign out front, that had turned, as copper does, green with age and corrosion, and was known to its patrons as "the Green Dragon". It was in this long room, above the Green Dragon, that the various protests and demonstrations in Boston were planned, including the throwing some tea in Boston Harbor.

John Hancock, shipper, and rum smuggler, was the financier, an who at the direction of Boston's tax collector, Samuel Adams, financed the protests and activities of the early Patriots. John Hancock had such a nice signature because he signed it so many times on bills of lading..

The `hero' of the Sons of Liberty, was a Member of the British minority party at the time, one John Wilkes, son of a distiller, who published a political rag called `The North Briton' His newsletter was a barb in the side of the king as well as his lackey in Parliament, Lord Bute. In the 45th issue of this newsletter, John Wilkes, said that

"A man is a sovereign unto himself, and (thus) may only be ruled by his own consent"

John Wilkes was most popular, with the people, and was elected Lord Mayor of London at one point. He was the champion of the Colonies in England, and could be considered one the first English `populist'. The phrase "sons of Liberty' was first used by a member of the minority party who had fought side by side with the colonists in the French & Indian War, in defense of some onerous action by the majority party, and knew the tenacity and determination of the colonists, and said something similar to

" Do not underestimate these `sons of liberty' in America.."

Reading these populist writings, in his home north of London, in the early 1760's, that said that elected officials should truly represent the interests of `the body of the people', was a man named Thomas Pain. When Thomas Pain came to America, and began his writings, he signed his name with a flourish that was misunderstood by the Americans to be an `e', and tiring of correcting people, he began for the sake of brevity, to call himself Thomas `Paine'.

A hundred years later, one newspaper account at the time said that the man who shot President Lincoln, jumped from the balcony onto the stage, and yelled his name (a moniker)

"John Wilkes Bute", which was interpreted to have something to do with John Wilkes and Lord Bute. A reporter got it wrong, and now history calls him `Booth...' This was fascinating, as well as puzzling, that so little of this story of the roots of liberty are taught in the American Public School system...I consider this `lost knowledge'. Knowledge I now feel is essential for the maintenance of that Liberty that our forefathers sought in coming to this `New World'.

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reply posted on 31-1-2010 @ 01:25 PM by seataka
The Stamp Tax The stamp tax was a cleverly designed tax, that required that a `stamp' be purchased, and affixed to all documents, newspapers, bills of laden, court decrees, and posters etc. It was a nominal tax, but one of its intents, was to end `anonymous' postings upon these trees at the center of communities, and to suppress criticism of the government. This tax was never allowed to be implemented, as it was the resulting uproar that ensued throughout the colonies, that created American Revolution -- as coopers, smithies, cabinet makers, men who worked with their hands, joined together, in small groups, independently, to oppose despotic, tyrannical rule..

Local, community posting trees, were quickly dedicated by citizenry, with much fanfare and ceremony, as TREES of LIBERTY, and festooned with imagery, - A boot, with a devil effigy climbing out, was the symbol for Lord Bute, - the King's agent in the House of Commons, who led the effort to tax and discipline the `Colonies' in opposition to minority leader and `populist', John Wilkes, the champion of the Americans.The number `45', in celebration of the 45th issue of John Wilkes North Briton. The phrase "Liberty & Property", used by John Wilkes, was chanted by crowds in, while protesting his imprisonment in England for his outspoken statements about the inalienable rights of man. A tarred and feathered effigy of the local `Stamp Tax collector' And "Long Live John Wilkes!!


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