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POLITICS: Alabama Bill to Ban 'Gay' books and Gay Authors

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posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 05:46 PM
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Should'nt children be allowed to learn about real life? This is a fact of life. There are gay people in this world period. Taking books away is not going to change this fact. Politicians need to let teachers, and parents decide on what they feel is ok for each school, and each grade year.
I have to wonder when there is a one world government...will there be any old books left in the schools and libraries at all? Or will they be swept clean of the old ways and replaced with their new way books?




posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 05:53 PM
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"I don't look at it as censorship," says State Representative Gerald Allen. "I look at it as protecting the hearts and souls and minds of our children."


I think the best way to protect the hearts, minds, and souls of our children is to remove this book burning fascist from office.

This man is pure, un-American evil. The biggest threat to this country comes not from Red Armies, terrorists, Nazis, commies, and alien invasions, but from evil, controlling, simple minded men of wicked disposition who wish to dictate what people read, think, and feel.

I honestly believe in a sane country this man would be tried, sentanced, and executed for grand treason and crimes againt humanity.



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by slank
HEY! I have an idea,

Lets make life a crime.

That will put an end to all that sick nasty breathing and other life nonsense.

Stay at home, don't register, don't vote, don't participate and you'll get your wish.


This book burning is a second chance. this is another wake up call.

Listen and head its sound or suffer for the 'inattention.' (in real life)
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posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by krt1967
Politicians need to let teachers, and parents decide on what they feel is ok for each school, and each grade year.

THEY do!

The vocal and voting parents and teachers are the ones the politicians listen to. Politicians want to stay in office.

Can't you folks see this?

Politicians are the ultimate protitutes- whatever they need to do to hold on to power they will do.
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posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 06:13 PM
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One worthwhile candidate, with equal news coverage, debate participation, and sensible policy, would see 80-90% voter participation.

That's never been the case so far.

You're asking people to choose between the lesser of two evils.

I say hold out for a worthwhile candidate to champion.

Hundreds of elections go uncontested every year because of this. The system begins to break down.

I also don't think people should work for corporations, buy from corporations, drive cars except in emergencies, pay taxes, send their children to public school, or eat processed food. :shrug: I'm more a cave man than you are Joe.

Of course, I'd rather be a cave man than an organism adapted to an unnatural environment soon to dissapear.



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 06:17 PM
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But one thing I am surprised about is that only one person has come and posted their support for this. And flimsy support at that...



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 11:51 PM
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how about this one lol

Hitlers Mein Kampf is in the Alabama Library
nobody trying to ban it!

but oh lets ban the books that dont contain mass hate propaganda

but lets make sure we keep Hitlers book!


lmao they can be so rediculous sometimes

i agree with the lot of you people
NO BOOK SHOULD EVER BE BANNED!

i greatly dislike the bible; but i would NEVER ban it!

these people have no idea what the Constitution is for these days

my hypothesis::: they are Testing Americans Resolve

they want to see how quickly the american public will react to stop this type of Constitution Burning
so the public better make a LOUD outcry!
or else! they will keep passing ever more intrusive legislation destroying every single shred of democracy within America

Grrrrrr they make me sick



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by WyrdeOne
I also don't think people should work for corporations, buy from corporations, drive cars except in emergencies, pay taxes, send their children to public school, or eat processed food. :shrug: I'm more a cave man than you are Joe.

So, who is pressing the keys on your keyboard?

Believe what you claim, but do what you do.

I really suspect you use toilet paper, drink other than fresh water, watch a little TV, drive a car unless that PRIVLEGE has been revoked and a whole lot more of the things you claim to hold in disdain.

More excuses not to get active in politics and change the things you don't like.

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posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 12:39 AM
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Damn, better ban heterosexuals too, making any and all Danielle(Daniel?) Steel novels and Nora Roberts books evil. Same with the Earth's Children Series, Tom Clancy has hetero sex in his books sometimes, Patricia Cornwell, author of the Kay Scarpetta books has hetero sex in it. Wait, she has lesbians to, Scarpetta's niece is a lesbian, so will be banned anyways even though it is in Virginia, a red state.

What the hell? These are the people who on sunday gave speeches about how "The left is being intolerant of the religous, these people who want two men to marry, how wrong is that? They want gays to be equal to us but are trying to stop 10 of our own!" Douchebag giving speech.(not sure of the name)



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 12:49 AM
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Ok people here's a little wake up call. Whereas i do not believe ANY book should be banned, I do believe it is wrong to teach kids that homosexuality is an 'alternative lifestyle' and that there is nothing wrong with it. Besides that fact that the bible says it is an AMBOMINATION, it is purely a human psychological problem. Look into nature for example, do you see animals having sex with the same sex? no. Sex is not an expresion of personality, it is to acomplish one thing, reproduction and sexual relations that do not yield this mother nature will put a stop to. Look at AIDS, it is a disease common in homosexuals and is often spread by them. Why would nature create such a disease? to clean up the Unnatural perversions of people. Gays are not an ethnic group,alternative lifestyle or anything else but a severe psychological problem that needs to be treated by professionals.



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 01:28 AM
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Ok people here's a little wake up call. Whereas i do not believe ANY book should be banned, I do believe it is wrong to teach kids that homosexuality is an 'alternative lifestyle' and that there is nothing wrong with it.


What's the harm in that? Are you scared that kids will turn gay? People act like switching to homosexuality is the easiest thing in the world...makes me wonder. Also, this thread isn't about public schools teaching tolerence...instead now they are encouraging intolerence.


Besides that fact that the bible says it is an AMBOMINATION, it is purely a human psychological problem.


/Yawn! Who cares what the Bible says, is this Sunday school? Most psychologists would disagree with your diagnosis...some may even say bigotry is a bigger psychological problem.


Look into nature for example, do you see animals having sex with the same sex? no.


Actually it happens all the time. Surprise!


Look at AIDS, it is a disease common in homosexuals and is often spread by them. Why would nature create such a disease? to clean up the Unnatural perversions of people.


Why would nature create any disease? Last time I checked heterosexuals die from AIDS as well. Your logic (or lack of) is highly disturbing.


Gays are not an ethnic group,alternative lifestyle or anything else but a severe psychological problem that needs to be treated by professionals.


Hey, after we send away the homosexuals to psychotic wards, lets do away with other "unnatural perversions" such as oral sex, we should also make all positions except for "missionary" illegal...it goes against God and besides...it's just not natural.



[edit on 4/28/2005 by Lecky]



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by AmaruM

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by AmaruM
Well this sounds good to me, gays are sick people, either in the head or just plain sick... And it might not others buisiness what to consenting sick people wish to do in there own homes, but that doesnt mean we should have to put up with it in public, or encourage our kids into thinking its ok....


Wow, did you put a lot of thought in that determination?

:shk:



well i fail to understand why homosexuality should be encouraged, even accepted... I hate this bs world we live in today where we have to accept everything, or be called a racist, homophobe etc... Cant i just hate gays because there sickening? If it where up to me all gays would be banned from TV and deported to the furthest place from civilization


In my experience people who fear gays like you are themsleves gay. You just don't like the thought of it, probably due to your narrow upbringing. I bet you get a wee tingling sensation when you see certain gay activities and you just can't cope.......sad really.

As for me I don't give a damn. As I say to my girlfriend I like fannies (english version i.e. female genitals !) with no inclination towards men. I have looked into myself and no I don't like willies I like fannies. I suspect you daren't do that !



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by malcr
In my experience people who fear gays like you are themsleves gay. You just don't like the thought of it, probably due to your narrow upbringing. I bet you get a wee tingling sensation when you see certain gay activities and you just can't cope.......sad really.

Right- taunt, taunt

I don't like murders so therefore I am one?

BS

People express their bias' differently. No need to taunt someone - I've heard people that do that - - - -

BS



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by Trustnone
Ok people here's a little wake up call. Whereas i do not believe ANY book should be banned, I do believe it is wrong to teach kids that homosexuality is an 'alternative lifestyle' and that there is nothing wrong with it. Besides that fact that the bible says it is an AMBOMINATION, it is purely a human psychological problem. Look into nature for example, do you see animals having sex with the same sex? no. Sex is not an expresion of personality, it is to acomplish one thing, reproduction and sexual relations that do not yield this mother nature will put a stop to. Look at AIDS, it is a disease common in homosexuals and is often spread by them. Why would nature create such a disease? to clean up the Unnatural perversions of people. Gays are not an ethnic group,alternative lifestyle or anything else but a severe psychological problem that needs to be treated by professionals.


Yes, there are many things here which are untrue. My dogs are both male and they try to have sex with each other all the time. Maybe I should take them out back and shoot them? I would ask you why you think homosexuality exists if it's not natural. Procreating at the rate that we do is "not natural", be we straights just can't seem to keep it in our pants, can we?

AIDS being the fault of gays is a very old and very foolish wive's tale. (I don't mean to offend any wives out there) They were using that as a piece of unsubstantiated propaganda since the damned thing started killing people. The only arguable reason a gay person might get it is if he had sex with another gay person without a condom (no possibility of getting pregnant, see). But when straight people feel that there partner is clean, we tend to have sex without a condom as well. Sorry if I sound pornographic.

What about Africa? They have an AIDS epidemic there, and I can assure you that it's because they lack proper medication, sex education, and the money it takes to buy contraception. You know... being that 85% of all AIDS deaths occur in Africa and all. Something about you tells me that you wouldn't have much sympathy for Africans.


No one know what "causes" homosexuality, or even that it is a thing to be "caused". As far as anyone can tell, it's a perfectly legitamate genetic mutation much as one's freckles, moles, and all around uniqueness is a genetic mutation. The thing is that it is natural. Greeks figured it out ages ago. Christianity (though I've fallen from denominational to non-denominational) had to go and ruin everything... though if people were to revere ALL aspects of the bible as much as they hold these passsages regarding homosexuality to such a high standard, Christianity would be a whole new beast all together.

Of course, we're told to use Jesus as an example and HE did such deplorably heterical things as associating himself with prostitutes, hanging out with lepers, throwing tantrums in the temple, claiming to be the son of god... Things that none of the rest of us wouldn't dare try to get away with... even though he is without sin... and then went to hell for it all.

I suddenly have the urge to actually STUDY Christianity and make up my own mind about it instead of having it dictated to me-- oh wait.
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[edit on 28-4-2005 by ServoHahn]



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by malcr


In my experience people who fear gays like you are themsleves gay. You just don't like the thought of it, probably due to your narrow upbringing. I bet you get a wee tingling sensation when you see certain gay activities and you just can't cope.......sad really.

As for me I don't give a damn. As I say to my girlfriend I like fannies (english version i.e. female genitals !) with no inclination towards men. I have looked into myself and no I don't like willies I like fannies. I suspect you daren't do that !


No i am not a sick person thanks, another thing which annoys me with Gays, if you dont accept with everything they do, they say you ARE one... Thats crazy, are all anti-racists racist? anti-war protesters really war mongerers? Thats just gays once again trying to hurt the community.

Like people above have said, accepting gays is one thing, but PROMOTING it in our youth is just sickening, shall we go around promiting incest now? Lets go and put books about rape and beastality in schools to!!



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 06:21 AM
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Ok gays of the board, would one of you please step out of th dark to answer me this....

YOU preach tollerence and respect for peoples choices/beliefs, then you go around protesting for gay marrages, YOU want to take OUR religous beliefs, rip through our beliefs, and make us change our RELIGION just for you...

Why do you gays preech tolorence but then feel the need to change things of OURS. The bibles says gays will go to hell, ok if you are gay and obviously dont believe this, WHY try join the church, its just total bull#...



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 06:39 AM
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I think you'll find that same sex marriages are primarily desired in order to give the sposes certain legal rights. I.e. in the case of becoming a widow the remaining spouse will have the same rights (to pensions etc) that a widow in a heterosexual marriage has.

As I've mentioned before in another thread, marriage in not a christian "invention", it's existed for thousands of years before the emergence of christianity. I don't know where people get the idea of a christian monopoly on marriage.



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by AmaruM
Ok gays of the board, would one of you please step out of th dark to answer me this....

YOU preach tollerence and respect for peoples choices/beliefs, then you go around protesting for gay marrages, YOU want to take OUR religous beliefs, rip through our beliefs, and make us change our RELIGION just for you...

Why do you gays preech tolorence but then feel the need to change things of OURS. The bibles says gays will go to hell, ok if you are gay and obviously dont believe this, WHY try join the church, its just total bull#...


I'm not gay, but I do speak gay as well as troll, which makes me a qualified interpreter to assist you.

Let's see, according to gay diplomat to crazy land which has authorized this dialogue with the ranting looney representative from trolltopia, he says your church doesn't have to change, nor do your beliefs to allow gay marriage. Plenty of churches already welcome gays, as well as perfom the religious ceremony of marriage for gays, but that's not the issue. It's the authorized legal marriage your church and beliefs already have no say in whatsoever no matter what your gender. The one that happens when you sign on the dotted line that allows the apporopriate benefits and recognitions by the state. Don't be ridiculous, your little church wedding is all in your head, God's eyes, same thing. It's meaningless in this discussion. As increasingly you are as well. Your church can always ban gays, refuse gay marriage, hate the color purple, who really cares? Legalized gay marriage does not impact the church. That's the beauty of seperation of church and state. Keep your church out of state business and the state will stay out of yours. And now we're really back at the topic at hand aren't we? A rogue Christian theocrat trying to impose laws on the state? Can you stay on that topic without straying further or making more demands of the "gays of the board" please?



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 06:56 AM
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Well you seem intelligent spouting your big words, i wonder how long that post took you
Next time tho use that big brain of yours to notice i wasnt demanding anything,, i was asking.

Secondly, marrage as we use in the westen world has always been based on monothesic religions, so please try telling me prehistoric gays invented marrage. Marrage is the joining of two people in front of god, there are other ways to show your commitment then marrage so stop your lies and pro gay propaganda please.



posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by AmaruM
Secondly, marrage as we use in the westen world has always been based on monothesic religions, so please try telling me prehistoric gays invented marrage. Marrage is the joining of two people in front of god, there are other ways to show your commitment then marrage so stop your lies and pro gay propaganda please.


The ancient Celts considered marriage or handfasting as some know it was a form of contract that had several purposes. These included the protection of property rights, the care of progeny (children), and the rights of the individuals involved in the relationships themselves.

There has always been a "legal" aspect to the marriage process. It's not all about God, a tree or some still dark pool in an ancient German forest. Sorry, but it's nothing to do with "prehistoric gays" and everything to do with someones legal rights.





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