The movie "They Live" with Rowdy Roddy Piper

Does anyone besides myself and John Nada love John Carpenter's "They Live"?

It has a very interesting implication as well!

I loved it! An awesome movie, although the special effects were what they were (granted they didnt have the budget for better ones)

Dont know if I believe it in a literal sense, but I believe it is symbolic for the Cabals control over the world.

They should do a remake. That, Escape from New York, and The Thing were 3 of his best.

Dont know if I want a remake of any of those (although They Live would be really kick a$$ with some better FX), especially The Thing... that gave me nightmares.

There are really no good movies of late that I think they need to remake those. I just 28 Days later. IT SUCKED! One of the worst movies I have ever seen that had so much potential. "They Live" would be good as a gritty movie like 28 Days Later. Just get a big guy to play Rowdy Piper's role but no big Hollywood star.

I actually liked Hot Rod in that movie. He did well coming across as a out of work construction worker. Besides, always hard to find a movie with a fight scene using pro wrestling moves that look halfway believable!

Originally posted by dragonrider
I actually liked Hot Rod in that movie. He did well coming across as a out of work construction worker. Besides, always hard to find a movie with a fight scene using pro wrestling moves that look halfway believable!

I thought he was awesome too. That's why I thought you needed a good decetn big guy to play the part---Stone Cold Steve Austin? No, TRIPLE H!

Originally posted by dragonrider
Besides, always hard to find a movie with a fight scene using pro wrestling moves that look halfway believable!

...EXCUSE ME?!?!

Pro wrestling and the choreographed fighting you see in movies borrow a lot from each other.
In fact, the only real difference is that we wrestlers actually hit each other.

*muttering about wrestling moves not looking believable....*

-B.

I thought he was awesome too. That's why I thought you needed a good decetn big guy to play the part---Stone Cold Steve Austin? No, TRIPLE H!

What about Taker?

I liked it. The acting (well Roddy's ) left some to be desired, but it was the first really good attempt at showing the "enemy amongst us".

I thought it was good.

Originally posted by MKULTRA

I thought he was awesome too. That's why I thought you needed a good decetn big guy to play the part---Stone Cold Steve Austin? No, TRIPLE H!

What about Taker?

Taker will never do. TOOOO big. You wanted the main character to look thike a large version of everyman. He's just a behometh. I need to get that on DVD.

Sure the effects and stuff could always be better and stuff like that, but what can you expect from back then. But the story was very good, and that's what makes a good movie.

Sure wish I could get a hold of something like those sun glasses they had. To be able to open people's eyes to the truth about a hidden reality like that would be so cool.

Also, I think Rod did an ok acting job...I've seen worse that's for sure.

In respect for effects that's what John Carpenter specialises in, making low budget movies look worth more than they are. When you consider that this movie was made for about $3 million in the 80's the effects are actually superb. Besides, I think CGI is getting used too much lately for everything.

I thought Roddy Piper did a great job, he does come across as some drifter construction worker, and when you take into account that he came up with all his own one liners you've gotta love him.
Let's not also forget that he and Keith David are probably in the greatest (and longest?) screen fight in cinema history. This a real brawl not some fancy wire-fu which we see far too much of these days.

Obviously the plot is not to be taken literally (although sometimes I really wonder...) but it certainly makes you think, and how many films can you say the same about these days?

P.S. Has anyone read the short story the film is based on? If so whats it like and do you know how to obtain a copy?

"I came here to chew bubble gum and kick a$$...and I'm all outta bubble gum!"

Classic flick. I'm glad someone brought this up. Piper has always been a charasmatic personality to say the least. It sounds as if a lot of you, like me, grew up with Hot Rod, Rick Flare and Gordon Solie ranting and raving in the squared circle every week.

I think a remake would be very cool..maybe adding in some of David Icke's stuff for a conspiracy angle. The thing I always have trouble with watching a remake is always comparing it to the original. Oh one last quote from the film..

"Lady, thats like puttin' perfume on a pig."

I am a great John Carpenter fan. They Live is an awesome movie, although Big Trouble in Little China ranks amongst my favourite "Carpenter."

I agree with Colonel that 28 Days Later was very disappointing. However, when you think about it it is very realistic, much more than any zombie movie. That is what makes it intriguing.

For fans of zombie movies, keep an eye out for the remake of Dawn of the Dead (about time ), as well as the sequel to Resident Evil.

Why remake it when it's perfect as it is? I'm sick to death of this let's remake everything attitude. An expample off the top of my head is Ring. They could put heavy marketing into the Japanese version and release that, but no. They remake it and it's not nearly as scary or original as the Japanese version. Tell me something Americans of the board, do you find it offensive that Hollywood doesn't think you can handle subtitles or actually can you not?

The only reason to remake They Live would be to make the effects better and to be fare I think the old effects have a certain charm to them and add to the effect of the film. STOP REMAKING CLASSICS.

[Edited on 27-7-2003 by John Nada]

Yeah they say that wrestling is "fake", but I sure wouldn't want to take a "fake" hit from a wrestler.

"Wrestlings fake. They know how to land. It is all scripted." Ignorant folk

Hello, not all fake, just some of the wrestlers fake. The Rock, THHH, the kid with one leg, the pretty boys who don't want to mess up their faces fake. Or know how to land? Jump off a twelve foot latter doing a Swanton Bomb and tell me how to f'ing land right!

For a big guy? Forget Taker, go Big Show! 7"2 500lbs!!! He wrestlers for real, so do Taker and Kane, and RVD, the Hardys, Edge, the Dudleys(all three), Rey, Billy Kidman, Brock, Kurt Angle, Stone Cold(mostly, some times faked when a big dangerous move), Ron Simmons, Bradshaw, and the king, the legend, the hardcore master, MICK FOLEY!!! Try telling HIM wrestling is fake and he'll show you a missing ear, missing teeth, over 300 stiches, so forth.

Anyways, Rowdy Roddy Piper is a legend to, loved him when he wrestled, got a bunch of old tapes. Anyways, not all wrestling fake, depends on the wrestler/who's a wuss who doesn't wanna mess up his face and if the move could be one that would kill if screwed up. A punch or a chop is nothing, a Tombstone would kill or paralyze if done for real.

Sure wish I could get a hold of something like those sun glasses they had. To be able to open people's eyes to the truth about a hidden reality like that would be so cool.

No doubt... but then again, remaining alert to the unusual schemes that are going on in the world can function as a type of sunglasses.

Originally posted by groingrinder
Yeah they say that wrestling is "fake", but I sure wouldn't want to take a "fake" hit from a wrestler.

Originally posted by James the Lesser
"Wrestlings fake. They know how to land. It is all scripted." Ignorant folk

Hello, not all fake, just some of the wrestlers fake. The Rock, THHH, the kid with one leg, the pretty boys who don't want to mess up their faces fake. Or know how to land? Jump off a twelve foot latter doing a Swanton Bomb and tell me how to f'ing land right!

For a big guy? Forget Taker, go Big Show! 7"2 500lbs!!! He wrestlers for real, so do Taker and Kane, and RVD, the Hardys, Edge, the Dudleys(all three), Rey, Billy Kidman, Brock, Kurt Angle, Stone Cold(mostly, some times faked when a big dangerous move), Ron Simmons, Bradshaw, and the king, the legend, the hardcore master, MICK FOLEY!!! Try telling HIM wrestling is fake and he'll show you a missing ear, missing teeth, over 300 stiches, so forth.

Anyways, Rowdy Roddy Piper is a legend to, loved him when he wrestled, got a bunch of old tapes. Anyways, not all wrestling fake, depends on the wrestler/who's a wuss who doesn't wanna mess up his face and if the move could be one that would kill if screwed up. A punch or a chop is nothing, a Tombstone would kill or paralyze if done for real.

I love you guys.

I worked a simple 10-minute non-gimmick match at our show last night, and I'm having trouble getting around this morning.
I didn't Swanton off a balcony or get hit with any chairs.
(I did, however, inadvertantly bust open my opponent's head on a DDT....fortunately he's okay and actually got a kick out of it.)

Has anyone here ever seen a dis-assembled wrestling ring? It's not a trampoline. It's a steel or wood frame, with ~15-20 support beams under the wrestling surface itself, covered in plywood.
It hurts to land on that.

Hot Rod did, in fact, rule in They Live. I'm surprised we don't see more action movies with pro wrestlers.

(BTW, James, you forgot to mention Chris Benoit, Rhyno, and Rey Mysterio in your list of "real" wrestlers!)

*goes back to heating pad*
-B.