The Reality of Conspiracies

An interesting article I felt would be worth discussing......

THE REALITY OF CONSPIRACIES


Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, "Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us." He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall hold them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure (Psalm 2:1-5).


People from time to time ask me what I think of the conspiracy view of history. My answer is usually not what they expect, whether they are pro-conspiracy theorists or anti-conspiracy theorists.

Why do they bother to ask me? Probably because they have spotted my weak point: a near-maniacal addiction to history books. By training, I'm an historian. I even have a Ph.D. in the field. This means that I had three choices when I got out of school: go into teaching and starve, stay out of teaching and starve, or go into business and not starve (maybe). I did the latter, and I haven't starved (so far). But I still read a lot of history books. I just can't stop.

I have a theory of history. It begins with Genesis 1:1: God's creation of the universe out of nothing.

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Any thoughts?

Toltec

I got some value out of the historical analyses but less out of the Satan vs God conspiracy material.

I enjoyed the conclusion, and also this:

'To identify a conspiracy, you must also identify the "conspired against." The identification of the "conspired against" establishes which kind of conspiracy thesis the author is promoting. There are Marxist-written conspiracy books that criticize the Rockefeller interests as pro-capitalist. There are "right-wing" conspiracy theses that are anti-Rockefeller because of the State capitalism aspect of the Establishment. Usually, the focus of concern is on politics and/or economic monopoly. Very seldom is the conspiracy traced back farther than two centuries, with the exception of anti-Semitic conspiracy theses, and even these generally begin with the Rothschild family in the late 18th century'.


I disagree that conspiracies are untraceable beyond two centuries.

To me, any collective action that withholds information from people who have legitimate interest in the information must be, by definition, a conspiracy.

So, that applies to a conspiracy of knowledge, and not to conspiracies to kill, dispossess, ridicule etc etc.

Eventually, many conspiracies (especially about power and monopoly, as the author suggests) become entrenched as law. Law is the biggest conspiracy, because it can say that anything spoken by people against the law is a conspiracy.

Other conspiracies since ancient times (off the top of my head) are:

* the rise of monarchs
* the exclusivity of trades and professions, and trade secrets
* societies with secrets
* the conspiracy of women losing men's socks.




[Edited on 27-7-2003 by MaskedAvatar]

Some of the information is more practical as far as exposing the coruption of today's establishment. Especially, as MA points to, the part about Rothschild and Rockefeller. But the parts about Satan vs. God still applies in the same way as far as the underlying message is concerned. I think most of the more open minded people here and around the world have probably come to a similar conclusion at one point or another. While the more closed minded or narrow thinking people would most certainly benefit from reading this, unless of course they are already on the side of ignorance, supression and the downfall of humankind.

(Humankind - You liked that P.C. word didn't ya?!?!)
Just a little way of saying thanx to all women of the world, past, present, and future. For literally creating new life, in hope that males will one day learn to respect it instead of destroy it.

My impression is that the author presented the danger's of the "self fulfilling prophesy" as defined from the standpoint of psychology.

As well I feel the author takes a lesson from history with respect to the conspiracies against Jesus in his day. It seems he feels that ultimately history will repeat itself.



Any thoughts?