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Mexican Professors says southwest to become a Mexican republic

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posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 06:39 PM
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I think all of you people that cant beleive this obviously live no where near the the South. The mexican population here in Texas is horrendous, whites are already the minority (actually there is no majority for now that i know of). I dont know that this will happen it probably won't but, that doesn't mean that it can't happen. I hope I am not coming off as racist though, I am not, I hate individuals not groups : ).




posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 06:46 PM
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Hey if the states in question democratically vote to seceed from the USA and from theiir own republics... theres not much you can realyl do short of betraying Democracy (not that you havent done so before)... but hey i wouldnt really worry, this dude was probably drunk on tequila... but i doubt this will happen... but if it does it will have to be the peoples choice to if they want it... which i doubt



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 06:47 PM
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It's time the United States legislated an official language -- English. Furthermore, its' also time the U.S. became serious about immigration by enforcing existing laws. No more welfare, free education or medical care for illegal immigrants. The key word here is ILLEGAL. Why should the U.S. tolerate an influx of illegal immigrants when there are thousands of other people who wish to immigrate to the U.S. through legitimate channels? Talk about being unfair. Turning a blind eye on illegal Mexican immigration is an outrage for a society that claims to be based upon law! Finally, I have to add that Mexico is at fault for the problems that illegal immigration have caused the U.S. Besides encouraging illegal immigration among their people, years of corruption, nepotism, bribery and corruption within the Mexican government is the cause of the problem. The Mexican government should be more concerned with developing a fair and open government working towards raising the station of their people, while encouraging Mexicans to illegally emmigrate to the u.s. will surely raise the conditions of these people, it's simply WRONG. Wake up America



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 07:09 PM
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Above: Increase in illegal aliens apprehended along the southwest U.S. border, January - March, 2004


quote by benevolent tyrant
It's time the United States legislated an official language -- English. Furthermore, its' also time the U.S. became serious about immigration by enforcing existing laws. No more welfare, free education or medical care for illegal immigrants.

Could not agree more


We can already see that we're are alone in this. Our government is not going to do anything. We have to fight it.

On January 7, 2004, President Bush announced a guest worker proposal - really an amnesty for illegal aliens, and the Democrats recently announced their own proposal giving amnesty to criminals, called the SOLVE ACT.

Los Angeles, Mexico - Billboard
[edit on 26-4-2005 by andpau66]

[edit on 26-4-2005 by andpau66]



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 07:29 PM
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wow this topic has brought out the nuts (PEOPLE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY) I understand the whole broken border fiascos, I saw we should militarize the border and create a GOVERNMENT regulated militia if the national (which should be doing this if they weren’t busy backing up our arm forces) helping to regulate the border, I mean the minute man project has thus far proven successful, I thought it was a good idea but had serious reservations about the people such a project would attract but it's working and no cases of abuses or increase racial tensions have hit the airwaves and you know the media is waiting to bounce on them (correct me if I'm mistaken)

We can't have the chaos and anarchy that we have now but we do need the vast majority of illegals that we have here, we just have to get them documented and weed out the undesirables. And to those that are concern about the amount of hispanics in the south west you might be surprise to find a lot of actual tribal Hawaiians living in Hawaii (WOW WHAT A CONCEPT!) I mean they were there long before we took or bought the territories.

I think they should put land mines in most of the inhospitable and hard to monitor areas of the borders and have a government sanction and regulated minute man type group backing up the border patrol (highly in-ept IMO) for the areas that would be overly impractical to mine. Or at least have bombing ranges and military exercise and training areas along the border. If you really want to help out with the border also volunteer to help build a wall like they did in California heck, get the illegals to help out and help close out the border.



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by benevolent tyrant
It's time the United States legislated an official language -- English. Furthermore, its' also time the U.S. became serious about immigration by enforcing existing laws. No more welfare, free education or medical care for illegal immigrants.


Could'nt agree more . There is one thing that you must realize though.....We(USA) have no intention of curbing illegal immigration. If you are from the southwest then you know the truthfulness of my statements(I was raised in Cali)

You see all those Illegals, and the jobs that they get (unless it's under the table) ARE TAXED. Yup that's right, the employer must insure that the taxes are taken out or he could get it from the IRS, and believe me they all cover their butts.

What relevance does this have? Well all those millions if not BILLIONS of tax dollars withdrawn for Social security and the like, will NEVER be seen by those illegals who had it taken out of their check. It's all one big giant Social Security scam.And when it comes down to it what it truly is, is TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

Whilst it is true that they milk our hospitals and classrooms for all they are worth, that amount pales in comparisson to what is being deducted from their checks.

You want to stop illegal immigration? GO AFTER THE BUSINESS OWNERS(mostly white) WHO HIRE THE ILLEGALS. Believe me when they get pinched it will stop. Until then it will continue as planned.

As someone else pointed out

I think all of you people that cant beleive this obviously live no where near the the South


I agree!IMHO though-Give it twenty more years and I bet the states mentioned above will be more so like Mexico than the rest of the United States.




[edit on 26-4-2005 by phoenixhasrisin]



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 07:53 PM
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phoenixhasrisin

Got it all in one
, you're 100% correct about the jobs the illegals take and just why the government doesn't crack down on them. Just one thing though, if you really need to have a federal law to back up the notion that anything other than English is the official language in this country, than you might just have a spot in this crack pot's classroom down in mexico. ENGLISH is the language of this land and everything else is just there to help streamline work for communities that have large foreign speaking populations (it's not just spanish you know) the growing spanish influence in this country would be undeniable and growing especial in the next 20 or 30 years especially in the southwest but trust me nobody wants to go annexing to mexico, I mean WHY?, an Islamic Theocracy would run a better government and the illegals are the first to tell you just how screwed mexico is. and if you didn't want so many mexicans in their Former territories you should have put them in reservations like you did with the Indians when you took their land (well too late now, lol) and just hang on if you think that the political parties are catering to Hispanics now, grab a seat because hispanic influence hasn't even been fully realized let alone used and it's just going to get bigger by the birth rate of LEGAL immigrants, americans of hispanic decent and illegals if immigration laws are not fixed. Get ready to learn a few new words, English will never be dropped no matter how many hispanics are here we might add a few new common words to the pot but hey that's the american way with every group that has come here and being Americanized a bit of them is added to the pot. I mean there are a lot of Irish and Italian influences that spread out and added themselves to everything as the results of large migration of specific groups.


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posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 08:03 PM
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i say let them have kalifornia



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by Elvis420
i say let them have kalifornia


Lol i was thinking the same thing yesterday when i saw this thread..


Go ahead let them have the land, once we remove all of our stuff what will they have? oh yeah a bigger mexico... then when they figure that out, they will start breaking the law and crossing the new border illegally...


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posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 08:26 PM
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Remember the alamo!

But honestly, do you think the U.S. will let that happen? C'mon! Illegal immigrants against the U.S. military?

Who would win..I wonder?

If need be, a dictatorship-like state would be setup to prevent this, and hell, I know people who would sacrifice that to keep those states part of the Union.

-wD



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by C0le

Originally posted by Elvis420
i say let them have kalifornia


Lol i was thinking the same thing yesterday when i saw this thread..


Go ahead let them have the land, once we remove all of our stuff what will they have? oh yeah a bigger mexico... then when they figure that out, they will start breaking the law and crossing the new border illegally...


[edit on 26-4-2005 by C0le]


lol
yea, do that, they can take texas too


but i know a way to end Illegal immigrants problems. have a Illegal immigrant walking up to US from mexico, stripe him with bombs and blow himself up. that way, bush & co. have no choice but to close downt the boder or do more about it. cause they going to be like, hey terroriest can come from mexico anytime they want. and here we are worring so much about airports lol, they can just walk up from mexico and no one can stop them lol.

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posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Oblivions void
the growing spanish influence in this country would be undeniable and growing especial in the next 20 or 30 years especially in the southwest but trust me nobody wants to go annexing to mexico, I mean WHY?, an Islamic Theocracy would run a better government and the illegals are the first to tell you just how screwed mexico is. and if you didn't want so many mexicans in their Former territories you should have put them in reservations like you did with the Indians when you took their land (well too late now, lol)

LMFAO!!! So true


and just hang on if you think that the political parties are catering to Hispanics now, grab a seat because hispanic influence hasn't even been fully realized let alone used and it's just going to get bigger by the birth rate of LEGAL immigrants, americans of hispanic decent and illegals if immigration laws are not fixed.


I think about this alot actually and they really don't have representation , YET. It's all empty rhetoric for the time being. But when that generation from the 80's grows up starts making some decent money and voting , oh yeah theres going to be one hell of a show. You think they are going to forget about us Damning the Colorado up stream and taking all their water( which is the TRUE CAUSE BEHIND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION)? Don't bet your life on it



Get ready to learn a few new words, English will never be dropped no matter how many hispanics are here we might add a few new common words to the pot but hey that's the american way with every group that has come here and being Americanized a bit of them is added to the pot. I mean there are a lot of Irish and Italian influences that spread out and added themselves to everything as the results of large migration of specific groups.


Great points. Funny thing is I already speak spanglish, and can understand and read alot of spanish even though I have never taken a class a day in my life. I don't mind that. What is getting scary, is places like Mc Donalds, KFC, Wallmart, etc, who are now starting to utilize this "work force". I can't get something without cheese without saying no queso, no queso.

As for literal annexation, of course that will never happen,. I'll give you a few GREAT reasons, why they will NEVER let mexico have Kalifornia as someone else stated.

1)Hollywood generates way too much cash, billions, upon billions.
2)The porn industry out of Simi Valley grosses almost Thrice that of legitimate hollywood films.........

and last but not least....California is a agricultural state, The Marijuana grown here makes more money than ALL OF OUR CASH CROPS COMBINED.

There is way too much money here to just walk away from.



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 08:35 PM
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Like it or not, here in Arizona the majority are Mexicans. I dont have a problem with them i have a problem that 90 0/0 dont have a social security card. I know, i work locally and have to ask what their number is. 9 times out of ten i have to settle for their birthday instead (and thats not easy to get out of them either)
Shame shame...Get legal for Krists sakes, like the rest of us. Its almost as if our wishes dont matter and they do what they want.

Whats up with that?!



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 08:37 PM
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Please explain to me what legislating English as the official language will accomplish! Seriously how will that make our lives better. Lets officially make the color of the sky blue while we're at it or officially add an ammendment saying that henceforth let it be known that water is wet. It will accomplish nothing its just a kneejerk response by insecure white people who get spooked when they hear people speaking spanish. There is no immigrant crisis people heaven forbid you have to live next to someone a different color then you.



posted on Apr, 26 2005 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by WeBDeviL
Remember the alamo!


Yeah....but so do they...So do they.

They also remember us Damning their river upstream thereby making it impossible to farm in northern Mexico, and they still are not too pleased with that one.

Couple hundred years is a drop in the bucket of time.

Not saying any actual war or annexation is going to happen but things are about to get real interesting in the next few years, that's all.


Uma

posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 01:40 AM
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I live in Los Angeles, it is already majority hispanic.

Some areas are already more than 80% hispanic.

Many schools have no children who are not hispanic. Also, many of these kids are citizens.

Hispanics are not going to go away.

They will either:

1. Assimilate
or
2. Form a separatist state similar to Quebec

I do not think the US government will let the tax revenue from the Southwest go out of their hands, do you?

If you live in the Southwest, practice your Spanish...

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posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 04:44 AM
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This is not new news. This idea has been floated before.

www.angelfire.com...

www.angelfire.com...

www.frontpagemag.com...

www.usborderpatrol.com...



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 05:31 AM
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If you want solve the problem of illegal immigration pull military recuiters out of high schools and put them on the border. Make it simple for illegal immigrants they either serve in the US army or they go home.
Assuming the "aliens" come back alive from there tour of duty they have earned US citzenship .
The US government wouldnt have to worry about a shortage of ground troops and the "aliens" have a chance to prove they are loyal to the USA.



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 07:26 AM
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I started a thread on this when The MinuteMen headed for the border with Mexico, but it got trash-canned.

This board may not take the idea seriously, but there are alot of people that do. See

MeCHa and the Brown Berets

Catalina Island, off the coast of California, was even symbolicly occupied for a little while there in the 70's.

What got my thread canned, I think, was my assertion that illegal immigration and NAFTA combine to put a stranglehold of fear on illegal Mexican, US workers, and Mexican workers in Mexico alike. It keeps wages down, US workers from requesting the salaries and benefits they are entitled to for fear of losing their job to an illegal or having it sent south of the border outright, and Mexican workers stuck in the same old dead-end system that keeps them streaming north for the border. Good for fat cat corporations and the status quo, bad for the average jane and joe.

Who says the new republic would be a Mexican state? It could somehow manage to be autonomous. Maybe both the US and Mexico will eventually welcome a new entity to take their little 'failed experiment' off their hands, once the area has been wrung dry of its resources and potential.





posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 11:31 AM
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Starting a fight with Mexico is the only way to curb this. The Mexican government is largely responsible for this as they are incouraging immigrants to take this actions by not inforcing stricter patrol on their side of the borders. They know damn well that NO ONE is illegaly crossing from US into Mexico. T"hey either need to beef up their stance or face the consequences.



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