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reply posted on 26-4-2005 @ 01:32 AM by Trinityman
Theres a lot of rubbish in the linked site you posted, but one in particular that caught my eye...

The Illuminati was founded in Bavaria in 1792, by a Freemason grandmaster named Adam Weishaupt. Adam received backing from the Rothschild family to build the Illuminati. He even converted to the Rothschild religion. He had been a Jesuit, but became a Jew. His followers were drawn, primarily, from Bavarian Freemason masters, who then attempted to use the Bavarian Freemasons to overthrow the Bavarian government. They were found out, and fled to Paris, where they infiltrated the French Freemasons. The revolutionary cry of "Liberty, Fraternity, Equality" was taken right out of the principles of Freemasonry. The same principles influenced the American Revolution and the Constitutional Conventions, as most of the instigators in those events were Freemasons. "Liberty, Fraternaty, Equality", however, was not what the French got. Something went seriously wrong.

The Freemasons are an ancient society that long operated under cover of a mason's guild. Throughout the Dark Ages, they preserved the ideals of freedom and equality for all men, while such things were persecuted relentlessly by the Catholic Church. The Black Plague left Europe with little need for masons, so they had to expand their range of applicants, to include other professions, including doctors and lawyers. With the decline of the papacy, the freemansons got a whole new playing field, with new opportunities. Somebody grabbed the freemasons by their leadership. That somebody was Adam Wieshaupt, an agent of the Rothschilds.


The article makes some impressive claims about Weishaupt's masonic connections, he was neither a master, nor a Grand master but spent his time trying to reform (bavarian) freemasonry into something it wasn't. He eventually left, his main claim to masonic fame being that he managed to get it banned by the bavarian authorities.

If the argument of this article is that there is a masonic connection to the Illuminati because Weishaupt was a senior freemason then it's false. There is no connection between the freemasons and the Illuminati (assuming they even exist).

en.wikipedia.org...


reply posted on 27-4-2005 @ 06:54 AM by NeonHelmet

That's exactly how their organization works. ASE et al. have been manipulated by the upper-echelon of anti-masons (such as David Icke and the Pope) to believe all this bunk about masonry so that these easily manipulated weak-minded sheep will carry out their agenda.


So David Icke and the Pope is working together do overrun or destroy free masonry?

You guys are hilarious, I doubt some of my views, but you are so sure that free masonry is good. Couldn’t you be wrong just as well as us anti masons?


ASE, Akilles and Necros are basically doing all the dirty work for their higher-ups in the secret "back door" of anti-masonry. As All-Seeing-Eye once said, "Someone needs to load the cannons, right?"


Proof? I would like to see you back up that claim with some EVIDENCE!
So All Seeing Eye, Akilles and MrNecros are in this together? Are they coordinating their plans to ruin it for the masons?
Wow this makes up a whole new area of conspiracy The Icke Pope Incident!
Have you read any of Icke’s books? Or are you just claiming to know what he’s all about? It seems to me that you masons only say the same **** about him! LIZARD MEN and ignore everything else, I don’t believe that Icke has ever seen a lizard man himself, he has it from eyewitnesses (there is a theory; perhaps these eye witnesses where brought to Icke to screw up the rest he is saying?).
Also Icke don’t like the Vatican or the Pope and have brought out to the public, a lot more incriminating evidence than is good for the Pope, so I find it very hard to believe that they are working together in this! Actually I find it impossible!

I have not always agreed with All Seeing Eye, but it still humours me to see how you masons still take over anti masons threads, and word bash it and start off topic arguments,
WHY IS THAT SAYS I.

But to get on topic!

ASE I believe you to almost correct, but I don’t think the masons play such a big part in this game! They are pawns just as we are!
I think that there is a much more grander scheme working behind the line of sight; perhaps we are all more than we think!

It is all about control, just not the form of control you think! It has nothing to do with money or power or natural resources. These are just the tools to keep us from seeing the real agenda!


Bilbo out!
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