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Masons CHIP in to help fight child abductions

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posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 10:56 AM
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"Massachusetts Sentinel and Enterprise

Masons CHIP in to help fight child abductions
By Diane C. Beaudoin Correspondent

LUNENBURG -- The town's public schools for the first time will be participating in a child-identification program offered by the local police department and the local chapter of the Freemasons of Massachusetts.

Freemasons have worked with police departments around the country to offer the so-called CHIP program, short for Child Identification Program. It is a free service to parents of school-age children and allows the children the opportunity to be identified in case of abduction or other crime. "

Isnt it nice that the masons are helping us find our lost children? How far behind are the real "chips" behind, computer, that is. I wonder what kind of profit was made in this "conditioning program"? How much did each "kit" cost the parents.

www.prisonplanet.com...





posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 11:17 AM
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This is proof that the Masons are the worker-bee's of the Illuminati... their huge numbers spread far and wide within local councils and state governments so they can pressure and manipulate the petty but helpfull things such as this child chipping for the Illumainti agenda.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 11:23 AM
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God forbid that the masons provide some finger printing materials so that we have a better chance of getting our kids back from pedophiles/kidnappers.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Driver
This is proof that the Masons are the worker-bee's of the Illuminati... their huge numbers spread far and wide within local councils and state governments so they can pressure and manipulate the petty but helpfull things such as this child chipping for the Illumainti agenda.


I will be very interested to hear what Masonic Light and Senrak, have to say about this.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 11:31 AM
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Its not even a chip... its a fingerprint kit.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by AllseeingEYE

Originally posted by Driver
This is proof that the Masons are the worker-bee's of the Illuminati... their huge numbers spread far and wide within local councils and state governments so they can pressure and manipulate the petty but helpfull things such as this child chipping for the Illumainti agenda.


I will be very interested to hear what Masonic Light and Senrak, have to say about this.


Well, that's not very complicated... that masons are doing this to ensure that our childrens will not be abducted by these monstruous catholic priests, and that this poster is a fool for only doubting of the good will of Freemasons, because, as the whole world is supposed to know, Freemasons are just there for our collective good, and all these secrets they are hiding are just afew special cookie recipes for kids...


As far I'm concerned, any organisation which collaborates in such a way with the pigs (the police) is not more trustworthy than the pigs themselves. I thought for some time joining the Freemasons, but now that's for sure that they can count me out for the time being, as I see now on which side of the fence they truly are in society.

[edit on 24/4/05 by Echtelion]



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by AllseeingEYE
I will be very interested to hear what Masonic Light and Senrak, have to say about this.


Well while you waiting for one of them to come along why not have a read about the CHIP programme?

www.mychip.org...



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by AllseeingEYE
I will be very interested to hear what Masonic Light and Senrak, have to say about this.


AllseeingEYE,

It's been said already...it is only a finger-printing/video tape that could assist if children are lost or abducted. The video tape could be distributed to the media and the use of the fingerprinting is obvious...except to the conspiracy mongers who fear that it's "big brother" getting more information.

As the father of two young children I can't imagine anything worse than losing a child or having a child abducted or harmed...

...but the raging anti's on the list can't see anything but conspiracy. They'll never believe the Masons are doing anything but bad. You see they claim to be enlightened and observant (particularly the "other" All Seeing Eye") but they've closed their minds to anything but what they want to believe regardless of how much truth is shown them.

Pity them.

Particularly those who are CONVINCED that it's the Illuminati...and those who think it "costs" the parents. It's free. Certainly we take donations to assist in the continuance of the program.

In the mean-time Masons continue to do good and the unknowing continue to spread lies about them. It's been happening for at least a couple of centuries...not likely to stop anytime soon.


Regards



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by Echtelion
As far I'm concerned, any organisation which collaborates in such a way with the pigs (the police) is not more trustworthy than the pigs themselves. I thought for some time joining the Freemasons, but now that's for sure that they can count me out for the time being, as I see now on which side of the fence they truly are in society.


Yes we can. Thanks for pinning your colours so elegantly to the mast. A great loss to freemasonry.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by Echtelion
As far I'm concerned, any organisation which collaborates in such a way with the pigs (the police) is not more trustworthy than the pigs themselves. I thought for some time joining the Freemasons, but now that's for sure that they can count me out for the time being, as I see now on which side of the fence they truly are in society.


Should you ever decide to petition for membership in Freemasonry (God forbid) be CERTAIN to let them know that you call yourself a "proud anarchist" and that you consider the police to be "pigs"

Those things are important for the Lodge to know in advance so they can have enough black-balls in the ballot box.


"In the state, you are to be a quiet and peaceful citizen, true to your government and just to your country. You are not to countenance disloyalty or rebellion, but patiently submit to legal authority, and conform with cheerfulness to the government of the country in which you live"

From the ritual of the Entered Apprentice Degree (Pirtle's Monitor)



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 01:11 PM
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I have always been intrigued in the masons. I am not surprised though, as the masons are supposed to be a charitable organization, right.

Masons are always trying to help the community, so what's wrong with using a chip? I think all they are doing is good for parents who have lost their children.

You would have a different feeling if your child was kidnapped, and the masons helped to recover that child. You would be thankful, and that is what you should be right now.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by MysticalUnicorn
Masons are always trying to help the community, so what's wrong with using a chip? I think all they are doing is good for parents who have lost their children.



THERE IS NO COMPUTER CHIP INVOLVED! Seriously. Get over it. It consists of a database of children's fingerprints, photo and information, and a videotape of the child. This is given to police incase a child is abducted, in order to assist them in retrieving the child. Only the ignorants on this forum can twist and distort this into being something nefarious. Get over it guys, seriously.

Learn to accept the fact that masons are on this planet to do good.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Echtelion
As far I'm concerned, any organisation which collaborates in such a way with the pigs (the police) is not more trustworthy than the pigs themselves.


I can't wait to see you call the police "pigs" when one of YOUR kids get abducted by a sex-hungry pedophile who wants to do nothing but stick his junk in your child. Then we'll see who's side you're on.



I thought for some time joining the Freemasons, but now that's for sure that they can count me out for the time being, as I see now on which side of the fence they truly are in society.


That's right, we are on the side of the fence of justice, law and order. Gosh, we must be terrible people.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 02:26 PM
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senrak, that's basically what I was implying... that I'm really not interested into a secretive ogranization which collaborates with the pigs into screening childrens for so-called security reasons. The more I look into it, the more freemasons are just as scary as the Catholic Church is, and somewhat in the same ways.

I do feel concerned by all these child abuse/abduction cases these days, but in a time where the Patriot Acts and the DHS are systematically infringing people's privacy rights in the US, and with RFIDs getting more and more mainstream there are very good reasons to be concerned as much by how corporatiosn and the government are actually building a global system of surveillance which is rapidly turning the States into a region of 1984's "Oceania". You're already doing so much sacrifices for the sake of the security of your family that within a few years the Constitution will be no longer applicable, for the Patriot Act and DHS will have alienated US citizens from it by a series of Federal legal-political protocols and codes. Millions of Americans have died in the past, in wars, for saving these rights, for these freedoms, for this Constitution, and you sheeps are just about to give it all away to the government because you're too scared. What a shame for humanity...

And this "proud anarchist" you're refering to in your post is the famous cult movie character that I use as my avatar, and "1954" because that was the year the original movie came out. I do not pretend being an anarchist, although I never agreed to corporate and government control over citizens, and that it's that same alienation that continuously makes things harder for people to handle their own collective lives autonomously. Nobody needs a government, and even less businesses, to rule their lives.

[edit on 24/4/05 by Echtelion]

[edit on 24/4/05 by Echtelion]



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Echtelion
senrak, that's basically what I was implying... that I'm really not interested into a secretive ogranization which collaborates with the pigs into screening childrens for so-called security reasons. The more I look into it, the more freemasons are just as scary as the Catholic Church is, and somewhat in the same ways.


Interesting perspective Echtelion.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by senrak


Is been said already...it is only a finger-printing/video tape that could assist if children are lost or abducted. The video tape could be distributed to the media and the use of the fingerprinting is obvious...except to the conspiracy mongers who fear that it's "big brother" getting more information.

Regards


Actually it is more then just a finger-printing/video tape. The CHIP program also includes a childs bite impression and their DNA sample. I think that is a little overboard as why would they need their DNA? Big brother is just looking out for our children??... riiiight.

Here's another thread on ATS regarding this program

Masonic CHIP Program for kids


www.child-id.org...



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega
Actually it is more then just a finger-printing/video tape. The CHIP program also includes a childs bite impression and their DNA sample. I think that is a little overboard as why would they need their DNA? Big brother is just looking out for our children??... riiiight.


OK, these are ALL ways to help a child be identified incase he/she evert diappears and in the very sad case that they might not be recognizeable when found. I still don't see how ANY of this can be used to control people. This is NO different than fingerprinting criminals for future identification, only this has a good reason behind it. What do you people think a child's fingerprints, bite, photo and DNA could possibly be used for, if not to identify them!?!?!?

Being a mason has nothing to do with being supportive of this program. Millions of parents all over the country have sent us their thanks for this. When you begin thinking like a rational adult, and not a paranoid conspiracy nut, you will see that this is good for society.


[edit on 24-4-2005 by sebatwerk]



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by sebatwerk

This is NO different than fingerprinting criminals for future identification, only this has a good reason behind it.

Being a mason has nothing to do with being supportive of this program. Millions of parents all over the country have sent us their thanks for this. When you begin thinking like a rational adult, and not a paranoid conspiracy nut, you will see that this is good for society.


[edit on 24-4-2005 by sebatwerk]


No different then fingerprinting criminals for future identification... thats just the point. The NWO is just starting to implement this because it will be a requirement for everyone in the near future. Would you like it if your fingerprints, teeth imprints, DNA, and video were all taken without consent? And stored in a database indefinitely? I sure wouldn't.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega
No different then fingerprinting criminals for future identification... thats just the point. The NWO is just starting to implement this because it will be a requirement for everyone in the near future. Would you like it if your fingerprints, teeth imprints, DNA, and video were all taken without consent? And stored in a database indefinitely? I sure wouldn't.



Firstly, this is not done without consent. This is by no means mandatory. This is done for children of parents to ask to have it done, that simple. And also, if it would help to identify in the case that I was abducted, I sure would want to have it done. Chances are I won't be, but if I was still a kid, I sure as hell would ask for this.

Like I asked previously, tell me how this can be used in a negative way.


[edit on 24-4-2005 by sebatwerk]



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 04:39 PM
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Grr, my post just got deleted as i was about to submit. I'll try to summarize briefly.

I'm not a mason. I'm neutral where masons are concerned. But when I read some of the responses here, I had to respond myself.


www.prisonplanet.com...

The program entails fingerprinting, done by Lunenburg police; a dental imprint, which is done by local dentists and hygenists; and a video, with the child talking about what they like to do; and how to call 911 in case of emergency.

"The parents receive the entire kit for their safekeeping.


The parents get everything, the fingerprints, the dental kit, and the video. The masons don't have access to them at all. The parents store them and bring them out if their kid goes missing.


from ASE:
I wonder what kind of profit was made in this "conditioning program"? How much did each "kit" cost the parents.


The response to this is found on the link you provided, ASE.


same website:
The Freemasons supply all the materials.


Also, interestingly enough:


from ASE (who asked the question in the first place)
It is a free service to parents of school-age children



from CPYKOmega:
Would you like it if your fingerprints, teeth imprints, DNA, and video were all taken without consent? And stored in a database indefinitely? I sure wouldn't.


No, I wouldn't like that. Fortunately, that isn't what the masons are doing.


from ASE:
Isnt it nice that the masons are helping us find our lost children?


Why, yes it is. Thanks, masons!



from Driver:
This is proof that the Masons are the worker-bee's of the Illuminati...


I worked as a security guard for two summers, and had to submit to a fingerprinting process before being hired. Therefore, this is proof that the local police are in cahoots with the Illuminati.


Actually, no. The police and my employer just want to make sure they aren't hiring a known criminal. They're protecting themselves. They also protect me, because then if my fingerprints are found at the scene of a crime in a location I was working in, they know they can eliminate them.

CHIP sounds like a masonic conspiracy to me. Yup, a conspiracy to keep our kids safer. I'm in favor of it.

Again, I have no opinion for or against masons, although this is pushing my opinion towards the 'for' side, here.



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