reply to post by Schaden
Bravo Schaden, I'm with you. Actually Nick Cook is a friend of mine. I respect his research efforts and his sincerity. I remain a skeptic about
anti-gravity and flying discs. I do think two people can come to different conclusions about the same basic set of facts without having to denounce
Former Penemunde engineer Otto Cerny whilst working for NASA described the Nazi Bell as being mounted inside a circle of electro magnets like a hoop.
The Nazi Bell itself at the centre was a large contra rotating centrifuge which spun mercury inside powerful electromagnetic fields.
Various substances were placed at the centre of the centrifuge to interact with plasma which fluoresced from the Mercury. Possibly this was to create
compounds between mercury and other elements which was not possible under normal circumstances. (mercury will not normally form compounds)
Nick has found something whose purpose has not been explained and needs explaining.
That book has been rather thorughly debunked. I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.
Nick Cook is an outstanding aviation journalist, but the book is some something else entirely and I think it was a bit outside his field. Fun as
It hasn't been thoroughly debunked at all. It has been debated and attacked and those who attack it believe they have silenced all debate by their
stubborn refusal to accept any of the evidence... Big difference.
Critics say that SS Obergruppenfuhrer Jakob Sporrenberg was the only source of information about the Bell and thus it is the fantasy of one man and
therefore in their estimation, not credible.
Besides Sporrenberg there were two other individuals described the Bell. Dr Wilhelm Voss, Kammler's head of the Skoda Works described it to Tom
Agoston and another account by Peenemunde engineer Otto Cerny to the father of Greg Rowe givenat Huntsville Alabama between 1960 and 1962.
Voss, Sporrenberg and Schuster all gave separate, but corroborating accounts that the Nazi Bell was evacuated from it's laboratory in a mine at what
is now called Walbrzych, then taken to an airfield near Schweidnitz (present day Swidnica). The claim is that the Nazi Bell was flown from this
airfield to Bodo Norway. Additionally it is claimed the aircraft was under SS guard and under tarpaulins with Sweedish air force markings.
What Wembley may be referring to are opinions that the Bell story is discredited because skeptics discount the Ju-390 flight. There are several
reasons why the Ju-390 flight is discounted. Skeptics assert:
A Allegedly there was only ever one Ju-390 flying
B Allegedly the Schweidnitz area was overrun by Soviets in April 1945
C Allegedly the 1200m runway at Bodo was too short for Ju-390 operations
D Allegedly the Ju-390 lacked the range to fly the Bell, Bodo to Argentina
My amatuer website addresses most of these issues:
In reply to A there were two Ju-390 aircraft flown and by rotating the aircraft in both pictures and juxtaposing them with matched wing chords one can
easily see that they had very different fuselages.
In reply to B this is an image of Soviet forces in April 1945 around Breslau in WW2 which reveals Schweidnitz was still in the hands of the German
17th Army. It was still credible to fly from airfields around Schweidnitz in April 1945.
In reply to C, it was possible for the Ju-390 to both land and take off from a 1200 metre runway. The EF100 was an RLM sponsored windtunnel evaluation
of the design which became the Ju-390. Figures for the EF-100 predicted the Ju-390 could take off within 550 metres at 75,000kg take off weight and
land in 520 metres. I attach a couple of photos of Bodo in WW2:
In reply to D the Ju-390 had very low fuel consumption when flown below 12,000 feet at 1600-1800rpm.
Before the declassification in 1993 of Argentine intelligence reports from 1945, few people had ever heard of the Nazi Bell.
Until the Polish Government declassified Sporrenberg's trial testimony, nobody except a few individuals had ever heard how the Bell worked
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