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reply posted on 17-7-2007 @ 12:45 PM by highfreq



reply posted on 17-7-2007 @ 02:45 PM by TeslaandLyne
Good I posted there too.
Your link:
NAZI UFO Secrets of WWII
www.youtube.com...
Which I must have seen before greening for foolish UFO stories.

Led me to, by their video reference:
Uncle Adolf & the Sexi Nazi Girls
www.youtube.com...

which linked to this page:
Real Nazi Holocaust Death Camps
www.youtube.com...

Supported by:
ADOLF THE GREAT . COM
Adolf's Jewish Support
www.adolfthegreat.com...

Which is going to put an even bad taste in any UFO pursuits.

I wish the National Security funding against true UFO and Energy Secrets
wouldn't take on such foul agendas.

Roswell was enough to fool people. Now occult Nazi fantasies are
making saucers.


reply posted on 17-7-2007 @ 03:12 PM by Wembley
There's a good analysis by Kevin McClure of the whole Nazi UFO mythos, including Nick Cook's work here -

www.forteantimes.com... -

and it really is built on sand when you get down to it. it does also highlight just how dodgy some of the people are who are pushing this story (like Zundel, who used the profits from his Nazi UFO stories to publish Holocaust Denial literature. Nice.


reply posted on 18-7-2007 @ 04:02 PM by TeslaandLyne
And alas that was Zundel's downfall.

However as skeptics might point out:



The main person attempting to spread the idea of a "German origin" for the flying saucer, is
an unabashed 'Naziphile' named Ernst Zundel, who owns Samisdat Publishers Ltd., Toronto,
Ontario, Canada. He began his publishings at least as early as 1976, and like me, underwent
intense judicial harassment, but was misled to believe the harassment was because he is a German
"holocaust revisionist' or 'denier', while the apparent reason is because his flying saucer material is
"too close" to the truth. The more Zundel was harassed, the more adamant became his Naziphilia.
Meanwhile, some of his best saucer books went out of print, just as his harassers desired. Zundel
has remained completely unaware that it was really his saucer material which attracted the
animosity of the Canadian national security establishment, pursuant to the secret orders under
which he was judicially harassed, similar to how I was judicially harassed in New Mexico, under
the ostensible guise of "property dealings", during the same approximate period of time.
Though novel in some respects, Zundel's idea of how German saucers worked was incorrect
if not completely lacking, being unfortunately subject to prior Nazi/CIA disinformation via
Paperclip, and a vague idea of jets, rockets, or some mysterious, esoteric "anti-gravity" system of
Felix Schauberger, involving a "water vortex". The Canadians were most likely worried that
Zundel might turn up a German-to-Canadian technology transfer dating to 1945 or soon thereafter.


From, type in Canada might get there.



Interesting ideas to say the least. Unfortunately, Lyne says he is the only one
who knows:



There are no documents from the Nazi sources or from our government or
any cooperating government, which have not been either destroyed or permanently
classified, or first been given the disinformation "treatment" by the CIA, before being
"declassified", released or otherwise covertly disseminated through whatever outlets
anyone may claim. This same rule applies to the statements of all active, former, or
retired military or government personnel who were subject to a security order, for a
period of at least 20 years from the date of said order or agreement, and all agreements
of a higher order, relating to knowledge of flying saucers, even apply a lifetime statute of
limitation. Incidentally, I possess the only known true 'leak' from the original Nazi flying
saucer source, via a security lapse of Sandia Base personnel in Albuquerque, New
Mexico. The FBI's statement on this matter was that I could not be prosecuted for
possession or disclosure because I had "...obtained all my information through innocent
means." In addition, I have not been subject to a national security agreement since 1977,
20 years after I signed an agreement while in AF Intelligence in my 18th year. Since I
was never given direct access to flying saucer secrets anyway, the information I
independently collected and developed on my own was never covered.




And so it goes, just another fantasy tale.



A saucer survey Kevin McClure may have seen.





[edit on 7/18/2007 by TeslaandLyne]
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