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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 08:32 PM by shots



Originally posted by djohnsto77
Well Done!!!! Now, THAT truly is a SIN!!!

Rare to medium rare for me please....


my bad meant to say rare very rare but in the heat of the moment I wanted to use the for effects. Sorry bout that



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 08:39 PM by EnronOutrunHomerun



Originally posted by dollmonster
When you see dead animals on the side of the road, are you tempted to stop for a snack?


No thank you....I'm not a scavenger...That's why I have a butcher and grocery store....



Does the sight of a dead bird make you salivate?


Depends....If it's the one my cat just dragged in, then you can forget about it....But if it's the quail scurrying about in my yard soon to be in the frying pan, then yes....



Do you daydream about killing cows with your bare hands and eating them raw?


I don't think there are many people who could kill a cow with their bare hands even IF they had that odd desire....

I'm not the one who usually does the killing - That's one of the pleasantries of modern life....I have other people I know and trust do that for me....

This is quite a funny little topic.....but unfortunately, I believe it's a repeat.....*yaaawns*



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 08:47 PM by djohnsto77

Ending the Dark Days!

Has anyone noticed how this issue has actually united like 99.9999999999999% of ATSers?

Whether liberal or conservative, a believer or a skeptic...practically everyone likes a good steak or a bite of turkey!

It's funny someone can make a post saying they met an alien named Sam who told them secrets of the universe on this site and can find a sympathetic believing ear on ATS, but a vegetarian gets blasted from all sectors! Nice...



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 08:52 PM by Kushi_Master


Although I don't eat so much meat - only fish, I have to disagree. We have pointed teeth- genetically proving that we are supposed to eat small portions of meat.



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 08:53 PM by EnronOutrunHomerun



Originally posted by djohnsto77
Has anyone noticed how this issue has actually united like 99.9999999999999% of ATSers?



Quite a "rare" event isn't it?

Bloody rare.....

The rareness of our mutual agreement quite literally drips with rareness.....I can almost taste it....



[edit on 4/23/2005 by EnronOutrunHomerun]



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 08:57 PM by yekway


Just a point I wanted to make. Not a big thing of course.-lol.

Plants are ALIVE, so to all vegis.

YOURE JUST AS BAD AS THE MEAT EATERS-LOL.

Now eat and be merry.



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 09:14 PM by ANOK


The thing that amazes me is how defencive ppl get when it is pointed out how the Human body is more designed for eating veggies than meat.
Sounds like repressed guilt to me...

The poster wasn't saying you are all bad ppl for eating meat just the FACT that we are not designed to eat it.

And as far as the appendix as someone noted how does that prove we are designed to eat meat?
It has been theorised that the appendix used to produce vitamin B (forget which one)...Once we started eating meat regularly it become unneeded.

Also as far as protein you can get more than enough protein from nuts and legumes etc...People are obsessed with protien...

www.vrg.org...

And you think meat makes you alert, give me a break the opposite is true!!

Read some real facts instead of the biased BS that comes from the meat industry. It's all about sucking money from your wallet.

Read about the effects of third world starvation from eating meat:

www.freewebs.com...




It takes 1 pound of grain to make 1 pound of bread.

It takes 20 pounds of grain to make 1 pound of beef.

It takes one acre of land to grow 20 000 pounds of potatoes.

It takes one acre of land to produce 165 pounds of beef.



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 09:21 PM by stumason




And as far as the appendix as someone noted how does that prove we are designed to eat meat?
It has been theorised that the appendix used to produce vitamin B (forget which one)...Once we started eating meat regularly it become unneeded.



Theorised? By whom? It is PROVEN (by studying the appendix of other great Apes for example) that it aids in the digestion of RAW meat.
When we started to eat cooked meat regulary, is when it became uneeded.
Jeez, wake up chap and read a book!

Humans are Omnivores. Get over it and stop crying about the cows. If it wasn't for humans, they wouldn't exist anyway!



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 09:24 PM by ANOK


Who's crying about cows? If they didn't exist who would care?

The appendix has nothing to do with digesting raw meat.

Humans cannot digest raw meat. That should tell you right there that we are not designed to eat it.
Ever see a lion cook their meat first?

I do read books, obviously different ones from you.



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 09:25 PM by LeftBehind


Oh yeah, it's all our fault those people are starving!!

Sounds like repressed guilt to me.

Most of the starvation and famine in the world is not caused by supply problems, it is caused by politics. Even with all of us selfish meat-eaters in the developed world, there is more than enough food to feed all the people in the world.

The problem is that third world nations in some cases would rather pay for their armies than buy food for people. The sanctions in Iraq didn't kill people, it was Saddam's choice to let his own people suffer for propaganda reasons.

BTW, nice link, try finding something with actual sources, not just opinion.



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 09:39 PM by ANOK


Yeah the third world is not exploited

www.geocities.com...

www.globalhunger.net...='meat%20third%20world'

www.compassionatespirit.com...


In underdeveloped countries, a person consumes an average of four hundred pounds of grain a year, most of it by eating it directly. In contrast, says world food authority Lester Brown, the average European or American goes through two thousand pounds a year, by first feeding almost ninety percent of it to animals for meat. The average European or American meat-eater, Brown says, uses five times the food resources of the average Colombian, Indian, or Nigerian.

Facts such as these have led food experts to point out that the world hunger problem is artificial. Even now, we are already producing more than enough food for everyone on the planet-but we are allocating it wastefully.



www.webcom.com...



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 09:48 PM by yekway


Yeah the third world is not exploited

Shame is what it is

What do I think?, this is what I think

Maybe with a little more thought, the human race can get their act together!

Like I said there is no difference from a carn to a vegie.

They all eat!



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reply posted on 23-4-2005 @ 10:27 PM by dgtempe


If i have to die from mad cow, so be it. I refuse to give up my meat. A meal is not a meal without meat.

God put buffaloes on earth so we could eat wings too.
Thank Goodness.



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reply posted on 24-4-2005 @ 10:27 AM by shots



Originally posted by ANOK

Humans cannot digest raw meat. That should tell you right there that we are not designed to eat it.




I do believe that is an incorrect statement. If what you said was true then how is a rare steak (you know those are the one seared not cooked) digested?



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reply posted on 24-4-2005 @ 10:41 AM by websurfer


Stumason and his appendix passage seemed to put an end to this discussion, making humans omnivores.

Whats going on here is that the vegan seems to have a natural ability to skip over the facts that prove him wrong.

This thread lost its discussion a few pages back, now its just going around in mad circles.

There are also health side effects to not eating meat, such that your body won't perform to its optimum ability. But heh, if you can eat vegetables all day and still have the energy to get through the day, kudos.



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reply posted on 24-4-2005 @ 01:41 PM by Legalizer


In america, pigs produced 50 Million tons of feces per day or over 18 Billion tons(18,250,000,000) a year, our sixty pounds of crap per American.

Most of that gets flushed into our rivers or goes into the ground water supply

The problem is so bad that there is a dead zone in the gulf of mexico because of the "over fertilization" where the missippi river flushes out.

For a real life expirment, get a golf fish bowl,crap in it, put a fish in it, eat some barbecue ribs while you watch it suffer and die...oh, and now eat it.



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reply posted on 24-4-2005 @ 05:51 PM by Croat56

I cannot live without bacon

external image

So I dont care if I die!!!



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reply posted on 24-4-2005 @ 06:35 PM by mrwupy


Lets suppose for just a moment that eating meat is wrong and bad for us. If you don't eat meat you get to live to the age of 80 and the last 15 years of that you are in a nursing home because your children don't have the time to put up with your feeble a$$.

Not to mention you missed out on some really fine dining in your day.

You also have the option of eating rare and perfectly cooked steaks and enjoying the absolute pleasure as they melted into your mouth, the downside being you died at 70 instead of 80.

Which means you only spent five years in the nursing home instead of 15.

Look people, not one single person reading this is going to get out of this world live.

Life is a gift, and the best way to say thank you for a gift is to enjoy it. Say thank you to your creator today for this wonderful life you have been granted by going out and eating a great big T-Bone.

It is SO good to be alive.

Love and light,

Wupy



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reply posted on 24-4-2005 @ 07:28 PM by Quake



Originally posted by djohnsto77
!!! We are made to eat meat dollmonster whether you like it or not. Vegetarianism among humans is an abberation, not a natural state.


I am not a vegetarian here but I do not agree with vegetarianism being an aberration

Vegetarian Resource Group "estimates" there are 5.7 million adult vegetarians in the U.S.
www.findarticles.com...

About 55% of Indians are vegetarians:
www.fao.org...

Though I highly doubt the 55% figure, reasonable estimates put around 20-30% of Indians to be vegetarians (I remeber reading it in some book...sorry cannot find the source now)
30% of a billion people....OMG its the population of the US

Also, I posted more of my views on another thread by dollmonster
politics.abovetopsecret.com...'


EDIT: About 55% of Indians are non-vegetarians: That puts vegetarians at 45%. Thanks stumason

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reply posted on 24-4-2005 @ 07:34 PM by stumason


Thats 55% are nonvegetarian.

Still, alot of the Vegies out there are because of religious reasons. Hindu's can't eat cows, but for some god forsaken reason, one of the main farm animals is cattle.... maybe they should sit down and think about it and breed sheep instead?



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