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WAR: 1000 Iraqis die in War on Terrorism each month

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posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 07:17 AM
The Brookings Institution foreign policy expert Michael O'Hanlon states that between 500-1000 Iraqis die each month due to the conditions in war ravaged Iraq.
DESPITE a decrease in American deaths in Iraq, Iraqis continue to die and suffer under poor economic conditions, a foreign policy expert said today.

"Unfortunately, things have not yet gotten much better for the Iraqi population either in terms of car bombings or general casualties from crime or from the ongoing civil conflict," Dr O'Hanlon told ABC radio.

Despite a weakening of insurgent forces since the US-led invasion in 2003 and a declining casualty rate for US forces, the situation had not improved for the Iraqi people.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Michael O'Hanlon then goes on to say that the economic conditions are a huge factor in the death of the Iraqis going so far to state that the economic policies are about the same as under Saddam Hussein.

Seems to me like someone is trying to take a cheap shot at the U.S. government.

[edit on 4/22/2005 by Simulacra]

posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 09:48 AM
Just wanted to point out that while some claim that the War in Iraq is 'stabilizing', the fatality rate for Iraqis has risen significantly while deaths for the U.S. military have dropped since last fall.

posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 10:15 AM

Just wanted to point out that while some claim that the War in Iraq is 'stabilizing', the fatality rate for Iraqis has risen significantly while deaths for the U.S. military have dropped since last fall.

That's because more and more Iraqis are being targeted by the insurgents.

Maybe the insurgents really do want us to leave and that's why they're targeting Iraqis now. They figure if they attack civilians, this will anger them and prompt them to join the Iraqi Army or police force. The bigger the Army and police force is, the sooner we Americans go home.

I don't know. These insurgents have never been clear on what they're trying to accomplish (they say one thing, but then their actions suggest another) so this theory is as good as any.

posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 11:07 AM
It's true that the insurgents are targetting innocent civilians as a means to convince us to leave the country (not sure about the logic on that one). The fact of the matter is these insurgents have no true aim. They are just out to terrorize whomever, whether it be their own people or the U.S. military.

posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 11:46 AM
The terrorists in Iraq are killing the Iraqi citizens in an attempt to foment civil war to completely destabilize the country. What they fear most is the development of a stable pluralistic democratic government, since that will end their ability to use the country as a terrorist base.

posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 11:51 AM
So...what, does that mean it's better to live in Iraq than the US? After all, the US has 5,500 deaths per day. And Iraq is supposed to be the war zone, not the US! I think I have to move...

Edit: By the way, the subject is extremely misleading.

[edit on 4-22-2005 by junglejake]

posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 02:03 PM

Your statement is extremly misleading. Comparing the population of America to the Iraqi populace is like comparing a grain of sand to a beach.

posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 02:45 PM
If iraqi civilians keep dying is mostly because it has been the insurgents doing most of the killings.

I also have to wonder if these statistics add the dead insurgents to the numbers they are providing in that link....

i agree with some of the members here, that link and the info is very misleading.

posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 06:08 PM
Alright to begin with this is a very deceptive topic. First off you choose the top end of the estimate given in the story to title this thread by which is deceptive in and of itself. Secondly, this is a prediction by an expert not facts. However, these are the facts as best as can be obtained.

According to the liberal site which keeps track of the number of Iraqi civilians killed since the beginning of the war these are the actual figures for the last four months.

December 2004- Between 395-414
January 2005- Between 421-447
February 2005 – Between 554-606
March 2005- 376

So that’s an average of 448.625 deaths per month so let’s round up to 450 a month or 5400 per year.

Now the population of Iraq based on 2003 numbers is 24,683,313 people

So the number of civilian deaths in Iraq per 100,000 people ends up being around 21.877. So how does that stack up against the rest of the world?

Well the list looks like this

1. Columbia- 63
2. South Africa- 51
3. Jamaica- 32
4. Venezuela- 32
5. Russia- 19
6. Mexico- 13
7. Lithuania- 10
8. Estonia- 10
9. Latvia- 10
10. Belarus- 9

So Iraq would fall into the 5th place. Pretty good for a war torn country don’t you think?

It gets better! The following is the homicide rates for the top cities for homicide per 100,000 people.

1. Washington DC- 45.8
2. Detroit- 42.0
3. Baltimore- 38.3
4. Memphis- 24.7
5. Chicago- 22.2
6. Philadelphia- 19.0
7. Columbus- 18.1
8. Milwaukee- 18.0
9. Los Angeles- 17.5
10. Dallas- 15.8

So you have a better chance of being killed in Washington, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, and Chicago than you do in Iraq.


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