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What are we to do with other child molestors that serve their sentence but remain a risk to our children? How can we determine which will do the unspeakable and which will live out the rest of their lives in peace? Is it OK for us as a society to imprison all sexual offenders and continue to punish them until they die because of a few @$$40735?
Originally posted by Herman
hmmm, I started a thread identical to this one last night and got no replies. Oh well, we can continue it here or any other place.
Originally posted by spliff4020
First of all, life time probation, with weekly check ins and random checks from the officers. More or less, lifetime of house arrest. Also, them and their cars should be outfitted with GPS systems that archive their everymove. Lastly, if its exceptionally heinous, they should have the words "RAPIST" tattoed across their foreheads. If they violate even the smallest term of their probation, they go back and serve 50 years. No questions asked.
Originally posted by namehere
it does too.
Originally posted by 27jd
Originally posted by Nygdan
Anyone who can do what this pig did is not going to be thinking rationally about 'what if i get the death penalty'.
That's why I believe in cases where children are murdered by predators, we make the death penalty much worse, after guilt is determined, we dispatch them in a very agonizing and lengthy manner, that may serve as a deterrent, to know that you will not just be put to death, but you will suffer as badly as anybody ever has if you harm a child.
As a parent of a young child, I don't like those numbers.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Again, if these people were thinking rationally, they'd not be commiting the crime in the first place. Besides which, what you suggest is not only disgusting, its completely unconstitutional.
Wasting political cash on a 'death by torture' ammendment, which will never get passed, will not help reduce those numbers one iota.
Originally posted by 27jd
Originally posted by Nygdan
Again, if these people were thinking rationally, they'd not be commiting the crime in the first place. Besides which, what you suggest is not only disgusting, its completely unconstitutional.
You're trying to paint them as foaming at the mouth lunatics,
They are FULLY capable of comprehending what a torturous death is, especially if it's there own.
Sorry if my opinion disgusts you, but it will not change.
And the constitution can and has been ammended several times, it's all but been thrown out, IMO.
Originally posted by Nygdan
I'm not trying to paint anyone as anything.
They certianly aren't sitting there thinking that they can get away with it and figureing its 'worth the risk', they are obviously compelled to do it.
Why else would this guy admit to it? They had nothing on him.
Changing it so that we can torture people to death would go a long way torwards throwing the constitution out.
Such an ammendment would never get passed, far too many people would be, reasonably enough, completely opposed to it.
Talk of that kind of thing is a waste, and it would scuttle any sort of "Lunsford's Law" to restrict probation and the like. Irrational vengeful discussion of the topic will lead to nothing, but reasoned thought about it might effect actual change.
Originally posted by 27jd
He was reasonable enough to try and hide his crimes
Of course they're compelled to do it, the reason anybody does anything is because they are compelled to, but that doesn't make them irrational. They know full well it is wrong, and they probably do think it's worth the risk, because they will be protected by the laws that you endorse and agree with.
Too bad the children they murder aren't protected by those laws.
Why else would this guy admit to it? They had nothing on him.
How do you know what they had on him? They were looking for him and found him out of state, they obviously knew something or he would have been gone. He didn't turn himself in and confess, they caught him. And he probably admitted it because her DNA was found on his jeans, so maybe he was looking for a plea bargain, knowing he would be protected by the laws you endorse and agree with.
Changing it so that we can torture people to death would go a long way torwards throwing the constitution out.
Unless it happened to their children.
I can't help but wonder why you think these SOB's are so irrational that the thought of a torturous death would do nothing to hinder them, but the thought of not getting "probation and the like" would.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Its a credit to Mr. Lunsford that he's not on the news ravening and calling for this guys dismemberment. He's trying to get legislative reform that would do more to prevent this sort of thing from happening. No one seems to be listening to him, but nearly everyone would apparently prefer to assuage their anger by pretending that they can vent it on the criminal.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Originally posted by LA_Maximus
The worst part about locking these monsters up is that they are protected while in prison (Thanks to Humanrights groups and the ACLU).
The ACLU protects the constitutional rights of everyone, and being a horrible murderer does not revoke all of one's rights. Mutliating and murdering and abusing the criminal is in itself a crime, no matter how justified anyone feels in doing it. This cretin felt justified in abusing and killing this girl. Justification is irrelevant.
There is law, and there is crime.