I don't see him lasting more than about 4 years, that'd get us half way though the tribulation, when the forces of evil are truly unleashed, and still get to the return of Christ at 2012.

Noone can predict the day or the hour of christs return so as far as it being 2012 that has yet to be seen. I hope its not considering im turning 20 in october ...hoping to get married, become a teacher, and be a mother some day. But signs are pointing to something. St. Malachy has yet to be proven though. I tend to discredit prophesies unless they are in the Bible although God has revealed things to people outside of biblical times so like i said this has yet to be seen but lets not rush it people im still a 19 year old girl
and i know Gods kingdom is so much better than here..i just..would really love to get married and be a mom before i die.

Kind Regards,
Digital Grl

Originally posted by Enigmatic_Messiah
I've started this thread because I believe the person who is to be number 112 is noticeable right now and would love to hear the different opinion on who it is & why based on the prophecy of St. Malachy.

Also added this recently:

All Responders to this thread must base their speculation on the assumption that the prophecy is true!

[edit on 21-4-2005 by Enigmatic_Messiah]

Peter the Roman could be one of the italian cardinals.
Somebody also suggested in another thread that petrus romanus can also mean "rock of rome" (petrus means rock in latin), and that maybe there will be no pope at all, Rock of Rome simply meaning the Vatican. Kinda stretched but who knows...
The prophecy mentions "extreme persecution", so we would have to see the beginings of that during the reign of this pope.

Yep, that's what I believe. The last "motto" was added in the 19th century by either the church or a publisher and isn't part of Malachi's prophecy at all. "Peter" is the same in Latin as English, Petrus translates as Rock. So it's just an added notation about the role of the church, either after the last pope or during the entire history of the church. The holy roman church leads it's flock through extreme persecution, yada yada...

seems like thats pretty much right on to me

Originally posted by djohnsto77
I don't see him lasting more than about 4 years, that'd get us half way though the tribulation, when the forces of evil are truly unleashed, and still get to the return of Christ at 2012.

This Guy Is Filled With the Most Doom and Gloom On this Site!

Originally posted by Rocky003

Originally posted by djohnsto77
I don't see him lasting more than about 4 years, that'd get us half way though the tribulation, when the forces of evil are truly unleashed, and still get to the return of Christ at 2012.

This Guy Is Filled With the Most Doom and Gloom On this Site!

Hahaha, he is. He is chalked full of rhetoric.

Originally posted by DigitalGrl
..would really love to get married and be a mom before i die.

Kind Regards,
Digital Grl

Want my phone number ?


Ok, back on topic..
Indeed, the 112 Pope should be visible by now already....he is already in the high ranks of the Vatican.
Personally i have no opinion....ill try to check it out and see if i find some potential "devil".

Well since there is speculation that the 112th pope was an addition to the original list and not one that was made by the prophet then we are on the last one.
And dog-gon-it he looks to be the evil one.

Originally posted by Enigmatic_Messiah

All Responders to this thread must base their speculation on the assumption that the prophecy is true!

Why?? Are you Admin or the board owner?? Or, is that the real enigma??

It's his thread, and he'd like to hear opinions on what people think if the prophecy is true- respect that, and offer intelligent conversation. Please don't try to start an argument with Enigmatic_Messiah, or anyone else, over it.

Originally posted by DigitalGrl
I hope its not considering im turning 20 in october ...hoping to get married, become a teacher, and be a mother some day. But signs are pointing to something.

Kind Regards,
Digital Grl

DG, live your life.
Don't plan your life on the speculation of others.

Go to school,
Become a great teacher!
Fall in love,
Get Married,
Raise a Family,
Retire in a warm climate.

Best Regards from
Southern Illinois

Originally posted by DigitalGrl

and i know Gods kingdom is so much better than here..i just..would really love to get married and be a mom before i die.

Kind Regards,
Digital Grl

This is kinda an odd sentence. If you have accepted Christ, real life will truly begin at His return. So the return of Christ is something to look forward too for those who know Him. He came to destroy the power of death.

Originally posted by Bobbo
It's his thread, and he'd like to hear opinions on what people think if the prophecy is true- respect that, and offer intelligent conversation. Please don't try to start an argument with Enigmatic_Messiah, or anyone else, over it.

Fair comment - but I thought this was an "open" forum, rather than being one that can only contain a one-sided POV?? Still, having such a discussion will be enlightening for everybody, as it will reinforce their views, whilst doubters can presumably start their own thread in response??

And I am not trying to start an argument with anyone - rather, a statement that excludes other viewpoints seems somewhat inflammatory in itself - but I'm more than happy to leave this august assembly in peace. I have no axe to grind for sure.

Originally posted by AlfredENewman
Fair comment - but I thought this was an "open" forum, rather than being one that can only contain a one-sided POV?? Still, having such a discussion will be enlightening for everybody, as it will reinforce their views, whilst doubters can presumably start their own thread in response??

And I am not trying to start an argument with anyone - rather, a statement that excludes other viewpoints seems somewhat inflammatory in itself - but I'm more than happy to leave this august assembly in peace. I have no axe to grind for sure.

It is an open forum. The responses should be based on what the author is asking for... in this case, the belief that the outcome of the prophecy is true, although I'm sure Enigmatic_Messiah wouldn't mind any points of view that are out there.

Reply in any way you choose, I was more or less making sure you just weren't starting some sort of flame-war, which is the way your post read.

I have read Malachy's prophecies over and over and over. My point is this: The only place I have ever seen it say that this pope would rule for a short time was on this message board. Also, it says nothing about the last pope being the Anti-Christ. It says he will face extreme persecution; it sounds like it is coming from the Anti-Christ. Not to mention this one little detail: How the HELL does Ratzinger fulfill the Glory of an Olive prophecy. And don't give me the branch of the church name resembles his name and their nickname is Olivatians BS. That is seriously just as infomative as me saying that Rudy Guillaini is the Anti-Christ because you can add up all the letters in his name, A = 1 B=2 Z=26, and multiply that by 3.28334 and it comes out to 666. And you know that my number 3.28334 is right because if you take the first two numbers multiply them together you get 6, then you take the two threes and add them together you get 6, then you take the 8/4 and multiply it by a 2 in there and you get 6. Thus, 666. Sorry, I know this is supposed to be about the prophecy being true, but I am just trying to clarify how it is true up to this point. You tell me a valid reason why this guy is Glory of an Olive and I will give you a more contributive response.

Hello. I had the same thoughts as Ryanp5555, so I did a lot of research on this Pope while ATS was down yesterday. I am trying to connect it to prophecy, since I do believe in them. I also have a thought (getting sidetracked here) The RCC doesn't want to acknowledge that these prophicies are legitimate yet they seem to go out of their way to give them creedence. They had no control over when JPII was born but I feel that they buried him on Friday intentionally. Back to the subject. He is a diocesian priest, he is not of any order, so it rules out the Benedictians. The church has said that the name a Pope (shuddering) picks is important to his legacy, so I researched the Benedict popes. Benedict XV and Benedict 1 were highly thought of. The rest weren't. One was an antipope, one was murdered, etc. So why would you pick that name? I feel that there was no outright connection to Glory of the Olives, so he picked Benedict to force a fit. I feel this Pope somehow forced his Papacy. When he was standing on the balcony looking out at the crowd, there was a look in his eyes. I wish I could put an emotion to it, but it made me uneasy. The only thing I can think of is that the olive branch stands for peace, and maybe in this papacy he will broker peace somewhere, somehow. I guess that remains to be seen. I do alot of genealogy and adoption searches for people so I thought let me look up the last name. Other than Bavaria I can not find Ratzinger anywhere. There are 46 listings in the US in some databases. I can not find a meaning for this name anywhere. Some last names have no meaning but most do. I wish I could find a coat of arms. The interesting thing I did find is that the name RATSINGER is a jewish name. Names were changed and mispelled alot over the ages and I wonder if he has Jewish lineage somewhere. That would uphold the prophecy. I am going to track his lineage as best I can and try to figure it out. It may take awhile though, I don't speak German so I have to translate it and I also have to wait on archives from the LDS center. One last note, I truly feel that the Catholics should apoligize to the rest of the world for this Pope. So let me start, I am so sorry our Cardinals did this. I guess we shall see. Jane