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Ratzinger, the last planned Pope - the "nazi Pope" as "From the glory of the olive"

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posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 10:46 PM
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also, if you're going by malarchus, this is the next to last pope.




posted on Apr, 19 2005 @ 01:23 AM
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The translation of Malachi's prophecy, his description for John Paul II was " De Laboris Solis", the toiling sun, or Eclipse of the Sun.

And you say it is a COINCIDENCE he was buried on the very day of an Eclipse?

Considering tradition, they could have buried him 3 days sooner, but NO.... Had to wait for the Eclipse.

How that doesn't strike people as self-fulfilling prophecy by people with slightly skewed beliefs (and forms of worship), I don't know. It seems pretty clear...



posted on Apr, 19 2005 @ 01:25 AM
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Who made these four favorites anyway.With the amount of secrecy that the voting is cared out with nobody really knows and if there is an illuminati plot a doubt that it would be leaked,so we can only conclude that these are based on somebodies at best guess based probable on the fact that one is black,one has a dodge past in german,one is Italian.
Time will tell but if the German doesn`t get in will that prove the illuminati is fake.



posted on Apr, 19 2005 @ 03:02 AM
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So, supposing Ratzinger is chosen, would that prove to ANYONE anything about the Illuminati?

Only those who already thought that way, sorry buddy.

It really is quite silly to suggest you would know for sure there was no Illuminati if Ratzinger wasn't chosen, unless you were willing to believe that they DID exist entirely if he does end up being chosen.


I think the fact that we are given prophecies, tells us something. Hmmm, the Judge who Judges will come, to give Judgement, is that how it ends?



posted on Apr, 19 2005 @ 03:08 AM
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were doomed, if the next pope 75% percent of america is a favoring turns out to have ties with the nazi's or opus dei, the world is pretty much ending in a dark bitter miserable slum..



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 01:35 AM
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yeah, I always found Rat Boy very, very creepy. And he looks even more creepier as pope. That'd be very surprising if he gets more moderate as pope and begin to make substantial reforms in the Church that just get more people attuned to Christianity. I'd be actually less surprised if he turns out to be the Antichrist... after all there's not many positions that are more appropriate than this one for destroying christianity and installing a new religion.

Is it me or since 2001 things just keep getting darker and darker each day? I can feel the evil almost everywhere in this world these days, while the '90s look like a big marshmallow party in my memories. I think it's really the end of days...

So duck... and cover!



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 01:41 AM
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For boldly and tirelessly insisting that Ratzinger would be the next Pope you deserve this:



You have voted MattMarriott for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have used all of your votes for this month.



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by topsecretombomb
were doomed, if the next pope 75% percent of america is a favoring turns out to have ties with the nazi's or opus dei, the world is pretty much ending in a dark bitter miserable slum..


Yeah,
got to agree with you on that one.

But i dont think this new pope is the anti-christ.



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by Echtelion
yeah, I always found Rat Boy very, very creepy. And he looks even more creepier as pope. That'd be very surprising if he gets more moderate as pope and begin to make substantial reforms in the Church that just get more people attuned to Christianity. I'd be actually less surprised if he turns out to be the Antichrist... after all there's not many positions that are more appropriate than this one for destroying christianity and installing a new religion.


So duck... and cover!


I have to say that the saving grace here is that Hitler is dead. When you consider the oaths taken by the Nazi Youth to Hitler, and the songs they were required to sing each day in their classrooms that stated "Hitler is more than a man, Hitler is our saviour."...Hitler is God on earth...Ratzinger would be in a nine-line-bind right now if Hitler - or some divinely appointed successor were still alive. Because according to my Bible - you can't serve two masters.

At least war and suicide has had it's positives for once - huh? if for no other reason that to allow him to not be torn between "the two saviours".



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 06:51 AM
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The last Pope with the name Benidict was just before world war 1 ..



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by sanse_nz
what the church needs is love, peace and growth with the
times, not someone stuck in the darkages.


What the church needs is the truth of it's faith taught fearlessly.
It doesn't need to suck up to people who don't understand what
the church believes. It needs to educate the people who think
the faith is 'the dark ages', when in fact secular humanism which
is running the planet now is 'the dark ages'.

If people leave the Catholic church because it sticks to the faith
then so be it. It will be a smaller church ... but it will not have lost
the faith.

Christ taught the truth. Many people left him (see John 6) not being
able to hear the 'hard' words. Christ didn't water it down and say -
'gee, if you come back I'll change what I'm saying to make it easier
for you to follow'. Nope. He continued to speak the truth. His
group of followers became smaller ... but it was still the truth.



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 11:54 AM
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Ratzinger, fits him well. "Rat"zinger: He does look a little bit like a rat? Am I right. "Zinger": a Zinger for the Neo-Nazis? Who knows.

All I know is that it was a complete mistake for the cards not to elect a non-european pope. The dude from Hondorus made a very tempting choice as Latin America his home to the highest concentration of Catholics. I think this is an example of the Church doing what it has always done; one step forward, two back. This guy is too conservative and too white, two atributes which are not going to bring in as many new members as the affiable John Paul II was able to do. But it was also a perfect choice as Ratzinger was secretly part of Hitler's brigade to hunt for the Holy Grail, which is the only reason why anyone would hire this man: So they can unfreeze Hitler, continue their pursuit of the chastis of life, and rule the world through religous authority. For Machiavelli pointed out that the people of France before and during his time were more willing to submit to the will of the Church, managed by Italians who were under Spanish authority(?) and the Medici's as well, and there devouted Church following governors rather than the king.

Doesn't it seem also odd that the pope came from Germany of all places. There are about 16 Catholics in all of Germany who just coincidentally happen to be related to Ratty.



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 12:38 PM
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Malachy was more than likely chosen for 2 reasons, he was a close confidant of John Paul, and will continue his legacy. He's 78, he even admitted himself, this papacy isn't gonna last thing long.
Pope John Paul the 2nd was born during a eclipse of the sun, for whoever said that up there about him being buried. And how is Ratzinger of the olives? I really don't get it.



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by MattMarriott
These are the illuminati Times codes confirming who the illuminati planned as the last Pope
www.timesonline.co.uk...

Notice that in Germany the only reference to this was hidden somehwere in the lines of the "Economy - Multimedia" section of the on-line version of TV news channel N24.
Headlines: "Ratzinger finds Fans im Internet" ...
www.n24.de...

Anyway, if you had read this you should have known this for a while:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Ratziner was the man that welcomed them officially in the "Church", in 1982...




I was away this week when the announcment was made. I was sure the ATS community would soon be abuzz, connecting the new pope to satanic cults, nazi's, and of course, the illuminati......oh well, at least this will keep y'all too busy to bother JP II anymore, at least he can rest in peace.....



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 01:13 PM
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I doubt little in my mind that the illumnati have any part to play in the selection of popes.. Those who may have power maybe the JESUIT pRIESTS, BUT THESE MAN MADE SELF FULFILLING PROPHECIES CAN do nothing to hasten the end of the world. They of themselves are up for a big suprise. no one knows how the end time will play out.. Let's end the speculation and endless waiting on conspiracies. One thing we know for sure that this poe is not the last the 2nd to last or the 3rd to last..



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 02:21 PM
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I watched the whole thing live and for me it was a bit like watching a car wreck - you just know something bad's about to happen but you can't do anything about it.
For me the kicker was his little speech after the blessing - about how he looked forward to 'tending the vineyard of the Lord'.
For some reason that ran a chill down my spine...



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 02:41 PM
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Pope John Paul the 2nd was born during a eclipse of the sun, for whoever said that up there about him being buried. And how is Ratzinger of the olives? I really don't get it.


JPII was born during an eclipse, yes, but he was also buried during a partial eclipse as well.

Ratzinger, in choosing the name "Benedict", could be connected by the prophecy to the Benedictine order of the olives. Also, during his speech and in calling for Peace (i.e. olive branch).



posted on Apr, 21 2005 @ 11:48 PM
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Any one care to mention how the rest of the 'prophecy' goes? And I don't mean the part about which Pope comes after Raty.

Because if the middle of the prophecy is true, it is only to lead credence to the MEAT of the prophecy, correct?

The CONCLUSION of the prophecy is....

Why has this not been mentioned already?



posted on Apr, 22 2005 @ 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by akilles
Any one care to mention how the rest of the 'prophecy' goes? And I don't mean the part about which Pope comes after Raty.

Because if the middle of the prophecy is true, it is only to lead credence to the MEAT of the prophecy, correct?

The CONCLUSION of the prophecy is....

Why has this not been mentioned already?


Probably due to the lack of media info.When Rat boy was picked my first thought was my god ATS member got it right maybe something in it.Then 6 secs latter realised the media picked him as favorite a while back.Does this mean the media controlled no l think its just people using it to provide themselves with some creditability.



posted on Apr, 24 2005 @ 06:11 PM
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"Confidential" letter to prove "we control the Vatican" - Inauguration, just in time
www.abovetopsecret.com...



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