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Airline Stocks, Banks, The CIA, and 9/11. Put the pieces together. (moved from ATSNN)

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posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 10:08 AM
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A possible link has been indentified between a CIA Executive and mysterious "put" options bought and sold surrounding the 9/11 Attacks. It is well-known that stocks for American Airlines and United Airlines experience significant deviations from normal trading in the time frame surrounding the 9/11 Tragedy. It is now also documented that a high-level Executive for the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) may have known about the attacks. Did A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard (CIA Executive) help some previous business associates by turning his head when CIA monitoring caused an alert? Nothing was done to stop the attacks. Was money the motivation?
 



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Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission as Israeli citizens, sold "short" a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be "in the millions of dollars."

Short selling of stocks involves the opportunity to gain large profits by passing shares to a friendly third party, then buying them back when the price falls. Historically, if this precedes a traumatic event, it is an indication of foreknowledge. It is widely known that the CIA uses the Promis software to routinely monitor stock trades as a possible warning sign of a terrorist attack or suspicious economic behavior. A week after the Sept.11 attacks, the London Times reported that the CIA had asked regulators for the Financial Services Authority in London to investigate the suspicious sales of millions of shares of stock just prior to the terrorist acts. It was hoped the business paper trail might lead to the terrorists.

Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a clandestine but official effort to resolve the market manipulations There has been a great deal of talk about insider trading of American stocks by certain Israeli groups both in Canada and Germany between August 26 and the Sept.11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Lynne Howard, a spokeswoman for the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE), stated that information about who made the trades was available immediately. "We would have been aware of any unusual activity right away. It would have been triggered by any unusual volume. There is an automated system called 'blue sheeting,' or the CBOE Market Surveillance System, that everyone in the business knows about. It provides information on the trades - the name and even the Social Security number on an account - and these surveillance systems are set up specifically to look into insider trading. The system would look at the volume, and then a real person would take over and review it, going back in time and looking at other unusual activity."

Howard continued, "The system is so smart that even if there is a news event that triggers a market event it can go back in time, and even the parameters can be changed depending on what is being looked at. It's a very clever system and it is instantaneous. Even with the system, though, we have very experienced and savvy staff in our market-regulations area who are always looking for things that might be unusual. They're trained to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Even if it's offshore, it might take a little longer, but all offshore accounts have to go through U.S. member firms - members of the CBOE - and it is easily and quickly identifiable who made the trades. The member firm who made the trades has to have identifiable information about the client under the 'Know Your Customer' regulations (and we share all information with the Securities and Exchange Commission.)"

Given all of this, at a minimum the CBOE and government regulators who are conducting the secret investigations have known for some time who made the options puts on a total of 38 stocks that might reasonably be anticipated to have a sharp drop in value because of an attack similar to the 9/11 episode. The silence from the investigating camps could mean several things: Either terrorists are responsible for the puts on the listed stocks or others besides terrorists had foreknowledge of the attack and used this knowledge to reap a nice financial harvest from the tragedy.



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The paper trail continues. It seems we have reached a point where the U.S. and CIA can no longer claim they were "surprised" by the 9/11 attacks. We had and still have systems in place that sent significant warning signs. The question now comes; "Did we see the signs and not know what they meant?" or "Did we ignore the signs?"

It seems painfully obvious that at least some agents with the CIA knew something was about to happen. We had signs that two major airlines' stocks were not trading normally. Were these trade deviations significant enough to cause alert? Many think so. Claims have been made that the links were too obvious, and that the CIA intentionally allowed the attacks to continue. Would Mr. Krongard allow the attacks in order to protect his prior business associates?

Why? Why would a country attack itself, or, allow an attack without defense? Speculation is unending. Perhaps to justify a war. Perhaps to secure initiate the New World Order. Perhaps to clear airspace for military/alien use. Perhaps to fulfill the prophecy of John Titor.

As with most things, I think the most logical starting point in this investigation is MONEY! We can now begin to look at who profited from the attacks, and this will lead us closer to the truth and motivation than any other avenue. Was it a Radical Muslim buying "puts" or was it a CIA Executive? When we get the answer to this question, we will be much closer to knowing who is responsible, and why.

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www.snopes.com

Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
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[edit on 18-4-2005 by cohiba]




posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 10:56 AM
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I don't see any link to a CIA executive, except being employed by Deutsche Bank 3 years prior to 911. I think the headline is misleading.



posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 11:00 AM
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The question is, "who are these Israelis?"

Many people agree that America is Israel's puppet/attack dog/scapegoat, and if Israelis orchestrated the attacks to push America into the middle east for their own political and financial gain, well, that would suck. Of course, the USA might have known this and didn't mind too much because it put us right in the midst of oil country, which is right where we want to be in preparation for Peak Oil.

In the end, though, there are no winners. The entire myriad of consequences of 9/11 could not have been planned for by even the smartest brain trust. Greediness allows for mistakes - whether this be a true middle-eastern terrorist plot or a broadway theatrical production.

Zip



posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 11:07 AM
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It's also been well documented that airline stock was sold short for several years leading up to 9/11. On some occassions, the orders were much larger than discussed during the 9/11 timeframe.



posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 11:13 AM
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Another thread on the topic from yesterday:

September 11 Stock Conspiracy



posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 11:21 AM
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With the recent declassification of the Northwood document
proof your leaders will sacrifice you
it is easy to believe that there was pre knowledge of the 9-11 event. It is also very easy to follow that our leaders would have allowed 9-11 to happen with that pre-knowledge.
It would serve the same purpose as allowing the attack on Pearl Harbor.

It would build fervor for the fight and allow all the changes that were made to our civil freedoms. Granted, some needed to be upgraded, but allowing thousands of Americans to die, so that a political agenda could be passed is the same as treason to me.

I still hope that they hang any signing members of the Northwood document, but they are all probably already dead.
I also beleive that FDR should have any and all honors taken from his name... he is a criminal and mass murderer of his own people...
I truly hope we get to the bottom of the 9-11 issue during the lifetimes of the people responsible/or allowed it to happen.
they are all earners of the esteemed "greatest mass murderers ever"...
if that happens to include our president or other high ranking officials, then so be it... they deserve worse punishment than a civilian due to the power they abused (hypothetically)
I hope they find the bastards... it would serve them right to get caught by their own greed.



posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 02:23 PM
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indymedia- weren't they taken over by the FBI?

Seems like something like that-



posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 03:13 PM
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you are right Joedokes...
interesting... maybe the FBI is tired of taking the blame for what others allowed... (so they tattle on the CIA)

it would be nice to have them on the side of truth and justice for once.



posted on Apr, 18 2005 @ 06:25 PM
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If the CBOE has this fabulous system they are touting, why has it taken 4 years for these inquiries to come to light?

Electrons travel at the speed of light. Are these people working at the pace of snails?

If this trading spike is not beyond the norm of intermitant market spikes, maybe it wasn't based on foreknowlege. The fact that a small cluster of investors, these israelis are the sole source of this spike does make it seem suspicious. Certainly the Israelis must track middle-east and muslim terrorist groups, better than we seem to have been able to.
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