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NEWS: Cruise Ship Hit With 70 Ft. Wave


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Topic started on 17-4-2005 @ 02:53 PM by krt1967


A Norwegian cruise ship was hit by a 70 ft. wave while in route to New York causing cabin flooding and injuries among passengers.




www.nydailynews.com
A "freak wave" more than 70 feet high slammed a luxury cruise ship steaming for New York yesterday, flooding cabins, injuring passengers and forcing the liner to stop for emergency repairs.

The tidal wave wrecked windows on the ninth and 10th floors and wreaked havoc below decks, destroying furniture, the onboard theater, and a store that sold expensive gifts.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


This is kind of scary after watching the movie "Day After Tomorrow" Where the wave takes out New York.
Makes a person wonder if the weather can really be controlled by science. At any rate it's a very scary thought.


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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 03:02 PM by Ultron10


Wow, what's the usual wave size for the area the ship was in? Wonder what caused it to be so high.



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 03:08 PM by Hellmutt


Another big cruiseship was smashed up by a huge wave recently.
ATSNN: Cruise Liner With 776 People In Distress



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 03:19 PM by krt1967


Hellmutt I read that one before I posted mine, and was thinking omg there are ships all over being attacked by this monster storm.
By the way very good post
I love the oceans and cruise ships, now i'll be worried to go out
Nothing i'm sure can't be cured by a orange dream from Friday's



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 03:22 PM by drogo


this is the second story on here today about a cruse ship getting hit by a big wave (not the same ship, differant area). had there been some seizmic event or recent storm that could have caused these waves?

i know the atlantic has been know for bad sailing, but i was under the impression that it was the fall that was full of bad weather and storms. i know on the great lakes stormes are very bad in the fall. why have we heard about two sips suffering from big waves but nothing is being said about what caused the wave? one ship covered on a uk news source and 1 ship covered in north america. why is there not something about both?



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 03:24 PM by djohnsto77


krt1967, this was already approved, but in the future please take these things into account:

ATSNN Tutorial: How to get your stories approved

And try to get your spelling right, especially in the title.



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 03:25 PM by ExpeditionForce


That's a pretty big wave. It should be just a freak wave, but it's looking like it's happening slightly more often now.



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 03:28 PM by krt1967


djohnsto77 thanks. Was in a hurry and could have posted better. Thanks for the link.



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 04:52 PM by Zipdot


Hey guys, I remember seeing/reading something about freak waves a couple of years ago. Due to the nature of waves, with no specific trigger to set them off, freak waves will occur mathemtically once every some-odd billion waves.

Any experienced sailor will tell you that freak waves are one of their greatest fears. On a side note, I'm getting my sailing certification in June, YAY!

www.math.uio.no...
www.bbc.co.uk...

Zip



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 05:11 PM by shots


Originally posted by djohnsto77
krt1967, this was already approved, but in the future please take these things into account:

ATSNN Tutorial: How to get your stories approved

And try to get your spelling right, especially in the title.


Good points DJ, the story is a good one but the submission is not what it should ave been. How on earth did it get approved? Not that I am against it mind you, but I thought ATS was going for quality not quantity, or have they now changed the rules



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 05:14 PM by Viendin


Zipdot's got it.

This isn't from a freak storm or an earthquake, it's just, as he said, a mathematical eventuality. There's a really good documentary on this that's aired on the Discovery Channel a few times.

If waves hit each other (just very small ones), they usually cancel out most of their collective force. Occasionally though (actually, fairly commonly) their collective force resonates because they hit at the perfect spot, and they become one wave. If this wave resonates with others, and still others, a freak wave occurs. Supposedly one wave occurse weekly, it's just our luck that cruise liners are more often not in their paths.



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 05:15 PM by Seekerof


Umm, contrary to public debate, these type waves are not unknown and are fairly consistent with ships that enter storm waters.

There are a number of ocean regions that have these type waves on a regular basis. Been in the waters around South Africa? How about the North Sea? There are spots in the Atlantic and Pacific that produce and have these type waves on a regular basis. I'm hardly seeing them as "freak waves."

Every talked with any military naval personel? Ask them.

What is unusual here is that a luxury cruise liner would be caught in serious storm waters.

The floating city of a ship, which was commissioned in 2002, left New York a week ago for Orlando, Miami and the Bahamas. It had started heading home when it ran into the wicked weather.

During the storm, one frightened passenger called a relative who relayed the information to the Coast Guard, which escorted the ship into Charleston yesterday.







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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 05:39 PM by superdude


70 foot wave?! Holy mackeral! It's amazing that there was so minimal damage. I wonder if they knew it was coming, or if it caught them by surprise.

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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 06:15 PM by Cercey


I remember seeing something - on the Discovery channel, I think- that talked about why so many ships (and planes) disappear in the bermuta triangle. They were suggesting that some sort of a vent (I think) on the sea floor could cause a gigantic bubble of gasses to be released, causing freak huge waves on the surface- to the point of even affecting passing low-flying aircraft. They also thought these were possible in much of the ocean, but particulary prevalent in the bermuta triangle area.



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 06:26 PM by Hoaks


A couple of years ago I travelled on the Queen Elisabeth 2 (QE2). I had the chance to talk with Captain Ron Warwick and he told me that he almost lost his ship to a 90ft rogue wave.

I googled it and found some references to that story:


www.stormsurf.com...
But on September 11th, during the same hurricane, the Queen Elizabeth 2 (QE2) hit a 95 ft wave 200 nmiles south of eastern Newfoundland and 120 nmiles southeast of Luis's center.


www.roblightbody.com...
Minutes before, monstrous seas smashed windows in the Grand Salon, 72 feet off the water. Warwick had given the order confining passengers to quarters.

Suddenly, a huge wave loomed off the bow, huge even for a ship the size of the QE2, at nearly 1,000 feet long, more than 100 feet wide, carrying nearly 3,000 people.

Hundreds of miles from shore, the face of the wave was steep, like a breaking wall of water. Warwick later described that "it looked as though the ship was headed for the white cliffs of Dover."

Officers on the bridge estimated the wave at 92 feet, because they were eyeball to eyeball with the crest.




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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 07:03 PM by Hellmutt


Here are news updates from Norwegian Cruise Lines own homepage:

Norwegian Dawn News Update



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reply posted on 17-4-2005 @ 11:56 PM by slank


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While earthquakes can cause huge waves that impact a vast front, as Zipdot points out, having enough waves that happen to intersect where a ship is bound to happen with all the various waves crossing, reflecting back, caused by subtle rumbles of the earth beneath, heating water currents and winds above. As big as the Ocean is maybe a 100ft wave is not that extraordinary.

Now apply that analogy to gravity waves. I wonder if there are occasional random gravity wave spikes? Since everything in the Universe moves up and down with them would we even be able to perceive them, or would there be odd occurances attendent with them?

I suppose in space there is almost no reflection back of those waves unlike the Earth's bounded oceans. Maybe that is the reason Space expands, all those gravity waves at the perifery are causing/forcing space to expand. (gravity wave energy expands the Universe?) If the Universe is spherical, the waves would eventually come back around.
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reply posted on 18-4-2005 @ 12:06 AM by Valhall


Originally posted by djohnsto77
krt1967, this was already approved, but in the future please take these things into account:

ATSNN Tutorial: How to get your stories approved

And try to get your spelling right, especially in the title.


Why did you do this? I swear, this just keeps happening. Only this time, the act is even more egregious, because not only are you being so insensitive to the writer of this article by stating your opinions of the shortfalls of their effort in a public forum instead of a private communication, but you're admitting upfront that some one deemed this story of worth to the point it was upgraded.

My u2u button is readily available to me - did they hide everybody else's?


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reply posted on 18-4-2005 @ 12:53 AM by SonofSpy


This is normal? Okay if oceanographers say so. Im pretty suspicious. 70 freakin feet! Good lord. It sounds big enough and powerful enough to capsize even something as big as a cruise ship. Its a miracle it didnt kill dozens. Love to see some before and after pics. Man that boat must be trashed! Checking the HAARP websites for suspicious activity. Most likely Mother Nature of course. Man, Mother Nature sure has been pissed latley...



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reply posted on 18-4-2005 @ 01:06 AM by krt1967


Thank you so much Valhall. I asked to be adopted but noone wanted me . Thank you for your support. It's nice to see even one person on a board like this one that still cares about other people. You will get my vote just for being an upstanding board member.


Originally posted by Valhall
Originally posted by djohnsto77
krt1967, this was already approved, but in the future please take these things into account:

ATSNN Tutorial: How to get your stories approved

And try to get your spelling right, especially in the title.


Why did you do this? I swear, this just keeps happening. Only this time, the act is even more egregious, because not only are you being so insensitive to the writer of this article by stating your opinions of the shortfalls of their effort in a public forum instead of a private communication, but you're admitting upfront that some one deemed this story of worth to the point it was upgraded.

My u2u button is readily available to me - did they hide everybody else's?


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