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Originally posted by sleeper
Originally posted by w1kdtr1p
And am wondering whether, Alien(s) or ET's in general are thee ONES responsible for not disclosing the issue. They are at the crux of the issue anyways. We want confirmation, but they won't give it to us.
Absolutely, the aliens hold all the cards-----no government can stop them from showing themselves----but they are not going to disrupt our economy, religious beliefs, and the foundations of what we believe our history to be-----that would be traumatic and chaotic-----they will do it slowly for our benefit-----how slowly depends how long it takes to establish a foot hold in space.
Perhaps sooner, but I doubt it.
For discussion's sake, what would be a reasonable way to achieve disclosure of whatever this phenomena may be? Anybody at all, just throw something out to think over.
Is that what all of this research is about? Just so we all can sit around, have a couple of beers and complain? I'm sorry to go off on such a tangent, but that's one thing that I always heard was one of the things that made America so great: if you don't like something, then you can do something to change it. I don't see why all of this information isn't being compiled and thrown out en masse to the media and to other people who can make it widely known.
Not many are willing to put their jobs, their reputation, etc. on the line to pursue a Chicken Little tactic of proclaiming it to the masses.
Don't think I'd be human if I didn't second guess myself.
Originally posted by CloudlessKnight
I'm still going to be one of those people that believes something is going on whether the matter is disclosed or not. But I would still like some disclosure. It's like when your big brother reaches over and smacks you behind your parent's back... you know he did it, but you want him to fess up to it so he'll get in trouble. We already know Big Brother is up to something, we just want them to admit it already and take responsibility for their actions.
Whatever the cultural, religious, or economic shock that will ensue after disclosure, I still think it's a necessary step that we all need to take. After all, if truths from disclosure would change the things that people believe, wouldn't it be wrong to let people continue to believe the lies that they put on themselves?
A lot of people don't want disclosure, they just want to be comfortable. These are the self-proclaimed "simple folk." Those with the attitudes of "If I can't see it then it can't hurt me" that just want to go to work in the morning then come home in their nice cars to their pretty house and their pretty lawns. Of course, these are the same kind of people that like to pretend that so many third world countries aren't living in poverty, that people do not die every day from starvation, that children never get kidnapped or abused, that women never get raped, and the list goes on...
Personally, I think that in order to better ourselves, some comforts (such as materialistic ideals and religious views that hold man high on a pedistle of superiority) must be sacrificed. I think it's the sacrifices that come with disclosure that people aren't willing to risk.
Originally posted by MCory1
Well, for one, I don't think we could or would need to contact the ETs. It would definitely be a benefit: "Hey guys, right about half-time during the SuperBowl, right after the big show, why doncha drop down and sing a couple of songs with Britney?". That would definitely get people's attention. That would be interesting as well, the computer aspect. Not necessarily a virus on everyone's computer, but maybe a flood of emails to the news stations and to various government officials. I think I might have an idea, but I'd like to hear a few more people speak up and see if there is truly any interest. Don't get your hopes up too much, it isn't anything too spectacular by any stretch of the imagination. But I want to hear other peoples ideas before I get too comfortable on my soapbox.
here we are still stuck thinking about trivial things that are not even close to the "Big Picture" that noone seems to see.
Originally posted by MCory1
That's one of the reasons I'd like to see everything out in the wash. After the initial shock of everything wore off, I think people would start to see the big picture. People wouldn't be as worried about the trivial things. At least I'd like to think that--I haven't gotten cynical (or realistic) enough to think otherwise yet. Yeah, it might be a naive way of thinking, but I like to be optimistic on that much at least.
I believe if enough people all worked at this together we can get disclosure but its gonna take hard cold evidence shown to the world basically saying "look they are here and I have the proof" Im thinking of all the military, nasa, fbi, cia ect. people coming forward with thier stories and papers/documents and proof.