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reply posted on 13-7-2005 @ 08:46 AM by emile
Originally posted by COWlan
So I guess the other two quotes were not useful in proving your point as one names FC-1 as FC-11 and the other one said FC-1 was a MIG-21 variant?

We have found many other quotes from including the most reliable military site on the internet www.globalsecurity.org What do you say to that? Is globalsecurity false or are your less reliable sites false?

I don't know which Sinodefence you've read but this one
www.sinodefence.com... certainly doesn't state any connection of FC-1 to MIG-33.

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I think you are a great one also, but please allowed me to explain something that may cause misunderstanding

The point StealthSpy posted may be few wrong but I can make out what he really want to say
The FC-1's prototype called Super-7 which we all remembered it developed since 80's last century from Mig-21 to move the air-intakes to beside the fuslage in order to equip a longer range radar in the head.
Be coursing such long time to develop, FC-1 has already been totally different from the Super-7 which actually was improved from MiG-21 as FTC-2000 山鹰。 www.sinodefence.com...

Then, the FC-1's engine really was RD-33 which originally is equiped in MiG-29 fighter. But previously, Super-7 was planed to equip F404 which was used in F/A-18 and F-20.

Thanks for your read

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reply posted on 13-7-2005 @ 08:59 AM by Stealth Spy
Originally posted by chinawhite

you come out with BS like this

Its offical stealth spy gets information from own source. himself

are you trying to make a fool of yourself


look chinawhite, personal attacks take the thread nowhere and only irk the other person. I'll just read daedalus's signature and stop retaliating to your never ending personal attacks(like i previously did and got warned for it)...and let the mods take care of that.


and could you give me links to say that the project-33 was nothing more than a model that china purchased. ???

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and this link that you posted :
www.b737.org.uk... is meant for Boeing - 737's not fighter jets like the J-10.

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and my official source is not myself as you claim; here are quotes with links to back them.

The most developed concept was MiG izdeje 33. MiG does not have money to develop both MFI and LFI at stroke, so they dropped LFI and work continued only on MFI. Concept was later sold to China and it become FC-1fighter.

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The aircraft is based off the design of the MiG-33 which was rejected by the Soviet Air Force.

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As a substitute for the Super-7, China is developing the FC-1 (Fighter China 1) lightweight multipurpose fighter based on the design for the MiG-33, which was rejected by the Soviet Air Force.

Chengdu Aircraft Industry Company [CAIC], based in Sichuan Province, is China's second-largest fighter production base, and the enterprise is cooperating with Russia's Mikoyan Aero-Science Production Group [MASPG] in the development of the FC-1.

But with the participation of MASPG, the Russians are using the FC-1 as a continuation of the MiG-33 [R33] program developed in the 1980s. With Russian technical assitance the redesigned FC-11 has improved climbout performance and steering capabilities along with a stronger fuselage. However, the most apparent modifications to the MiG-33 design is the repositioning of the ventral fins from the engine compartment to the added tail edgings, providing better aerial.


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The development of this fighter, the improved copy of Soviet MIG-33 (which R&D was terminated due to absence of money at the beginning of 1990s), started at Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corp., in 1994-95.

More exactly, MIG-33 designers resumed this terminated project in Moscow under supervision of experts from Chengdu city and with financing from PLA. In 1995, Chengdu Corp. purchased 100 units advanced RD-93 jet engines, for the future FC-1, at Klimov Aircraft Corp. in St. Petersburg.

Despite all the efforts, the project dealt with a lot of problems, and only at the beginning of 2001 did it enter the last stage.




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and about the J-10 programme :
Read this backed by another chinese link
The J-10 project was conceived in the 1984

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and there appears to be some misunderstanding about the Mig-33.

While the Mig-33 is an upgrade, the Mig-izdeje 33 is same as the project-33 and is also called the R-33 by some...and it is this aircraft the the FC-1 is based on/improved copy of.

Russian names are always confusing like the Tu-22 and Tu-22M are totally different aircrafts; the Su-34, the Su-32FN, the Su-27IB are all the same aircraft !!!! and such nomenclature differences should not cause friction IMO.

and i found this too on the J-10 :


Russian involvement in the J-10 program was not limited to the AI-31FN turbojet engine, but also included offers for advanced multifunction radars, navigation and targeting systems, ECM suite, and missile warning and defense systems.

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For low-level navigation and precision strike, a forward-looking infrared and laser designation pod is likely to be carried F-16-style on an inlet stores station. A Chinese designed pod similar to the Israeli Rafael Litening was revealed at the 1998 Zhuhai air show.

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