J-10 production in problems?

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posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 11:31 PM
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Translation from Bable fish
The newest issue "Chinese And Defense Commentary" reported that, annihilates -10 production quantity not to be able to surpass 50. The Chinese and also declared the Chinese military to annihilates -10 airplane the performance quite to be discontented, after test flight France "a wind" the airplane, the Chinese air force's one batch of trump cards pilots collective has submitted a written statement on the other day the Central Military Committee, the request stops annihilating -10 development and the production, direct introduction "wind" in home production.
News, encounters the domestic broad army to confuse immediately intensely denounces. We only many pester the news itself, but is knows this news lead - France "a wind" the fighter aircraft..

This part i saw yesterday--
News, encounters the domestic broad army to confuse immediately intensely denounces. We only many pester the news itself, but is knows this news lead - France "a wind" the fighter aircraft




posted on Apr, 14 2005 @ 02:05 AM
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Wasn't the original source of this story Kanwa?

Because if it is then i wouldn't place too much credibility on it.



What i presume is driving speculation is the fact that China might be looking at the Rafale.



posted on Apr, 14 2005 @ 11:14 PM
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Heck No! Kanwa on the controry was bit damp about the J-10 problems. It said Chinese forces are satisfied with it. IMHO this "Chinese and military commentry" is a mainland publication (not even Taiwanese).

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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 12:22 AM
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opps i posted this from first glance

or is that Rafale

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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 01:17 AM
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It is a Rafale.


I don't think they are really having any problems with the J-10, maybe waiting for the Europe weapons ban to be cancelled, buy avonics from France or Sweden then maybe add it in. Remember that they also stopped producing the J-11 or Su-27 a while ago, maybe its because they are focusing on something else.....



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by chinawhite
all the pictures in article are fc-1 not j-10

or is that Rafale

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hehe...
intuition??
An FC-1 on a carrier??!!

And I thought you would be able to read chinese!!
Or have they not mentioned the name of the aircraft in that text??



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 03:04 AM
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Unfortunetly Rafale is french, but it roughly translates to some kind of windy thing.

Yes, the article talks about the Rafale. France would really want to sell it's jets, they so damn expensive.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 05:55 AM
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J-10 structural problems
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Check the three bands on the intake. Drag?


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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 06:05 AM
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I'am no aircraft expert.

wheres waynos when you need him.


EDIT: Hey BruteGorilla, you didin't source that off Kanwa again did you???

Lol, do you think Kanwa is some of Chinese mole with all these special information about the Chinese military?

It's run by 1 guy, his wife, ethnic Chinese but Evangelical convert, changed his name to Pinkov. If he has "sources", i'am surprised those sources haven't being executed for treason.


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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 06:46 AM
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A year back Kanwa pictures and reports were geniun as they were the ones responsible for bringing J-10 pictures and news. Suddenly they report that J-10 has problems and Kanwa becomes non-credible.

My impression is Kanwa is the only credible news source when it comes to China.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by BruteGorilla
A year back Kanwa pictures and reports were geniun as they were the ones responsible for bringing J-10 pictures and news. Suddenly they report that J-10 has problems and Kanwa becomes non-credible.

My impression is Kanwa is the only credible news source when it comes to China.


Ok, Kanwa is a proper source.

J-10 is in trouble.

I don't really care, lol.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 07:14 AM
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Let me get this straight:

The Chinese cant even create a working COPY of another aircraft? Its too bad too, the J-10 looked as if it may end up being the best copy of an F16 so far. Oh well...



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by BruteGorilla
Check the three bands on the intake. Drag?


I'm not an aircraft expert, so don't mind me for asking this, what bands?

EDIT: Oh,it might help if you circled it with paint or some other editing program.

[edit on 15/4/05 by W4rl0rD]



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 08:33 AM
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What? Which bastard told you this tale? You'd better ask him some evidence to prove it. If not, don't believe it. THe 10 has already producted more over 100. Further more, there is a two-seat type being developed.




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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 08:44 AM
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What exactly is wrong with the bands?

What does it actually inhibit?



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 08:59 AM
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Why? Why China will stop the J-10 project? Have you seen any aircraft project which has improved two-seat type to supply training pilot be cancered? Are there someone really think the J-10's maneuverability less than Rafale?

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posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 12:13 PM
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how to translate chines web site

here is the answer

just type following line against your full web add

216.239.37.104...://news.sohu.com/20050415/n225201902.shtml

you can add any address of chines site after en&u=

and it will translate the website


i hope very useful for chines website



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 01:18 PM
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Chinese inventing a plane?

These are the same people who inveted the chinese star for christs sake.
The plane will spin out of control and miss its targets. Count on this.



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 01:34 PM
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Credible information about the J-10 is pretty hard to get. There are so many sources that contradict each other. Some say it will be cancelled, some say it will only be produced in small numbers



posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 01:40 PM
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I personally think the PLAAF is playing crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon with this but I can only speculate.


Crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon? They better produce the J-10 in small number and stick to purchasing export fighters or else they are playing hidden dragon with a piece of *bleep*.





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