posted on Jul, 23 2003 @ 11:20 PM
Posted by DragonRider on behalf of GoreGrinder, due to technical difficulties.
Starting off this next response, I would like to thank my adversary for a reference which undoubtedly furthers my argument.
Working my way down through Colonels' response, I would first like to point out the unwisely injected word "usurp". In what way, over the past 58
years that the United Nations has so crucially been instituted, has the United States' power been unfairly stripped by another country? If the motion
to go to war in Iraq would have come before the council, it would have been shot down. Not because any power was being stolen, but because a larger
portion of the countries seated in the UN disagreed with it, mainly because of a huge lack of evidence. Also, as an interesting side-note, if any
power was actually being stripped from the United States, as you have stated, why was the United States STILL allowed to invade Iraq? In essence this
points out the fact that the United States is turning toward the path of a rogue nation, and turning away from the path of a Peace Making, World
In respose to your citings of the articles of the UN, i could very well fill this response with numerous articles that completely contradict your
argument, but instead i have decided to cite only one;
Article One, Section one: "To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention
and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful
means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which
might lead to a breach of the peace"
Let's break this down, shall we? The first half deals with the responsibility of the UN's members to adhere to the principles of peace keeping, in a
COLLECTIVE MANNER. The United States more than obviously abandoned this idea in the war on Iraq, and abandoned it's partners in the UN. The second
half of the section deals with the ever-ruling concept of keeping the peace in times when war can be avoided, and the recognition of such situations.
Why did the United States exert such power for a country that up to this point, proved no threat to the United States or its' sovereignty; thus
stripping the United States of any credible sovereignty it posessed before the war in Iraq.
The UN is an intricle part of the modern world, and to deny this fact, as our government has, is a clear disruption of peace, the very thing the UN is
designed to protect. Sovereignty should be reserved for the responsible, not the ignorant.