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Originally posted by interestedalways
Nice clarification, thanks
It seems that all clues lead to the same path..........such as mentioning fire, divine flame, baptism by fire something of that nature and abruptly ending. Or does it just get too hot?
Owl Lilith(lucifer)molech Melkizadek
peacock lucifer melek Forever Young Boy azazzal
Confusion, yes. At least for me
edenkai
Basically, the only thing that I could come up with is that in certain rituals Moloch might be represented as Owl-headed in order to accentuate the female attributes of the god,
Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by Tamahu
To normal people, non conspiracy-theorists, that's actually supposed to be the spider that wove the webs on the dollar bill. Stop being so paranoid.
A spider??? It looks like an owl to me, on the bill, the roads, bohemium club. Ok I have got to admit I cannot see the BC posing a threat to human kind as we know it.
All I ask is why are they worshipping, from my opinion look like bodyguards of a goddess???
Or is it saying, we are watching you!!!
Bohemian grove is a place for these sadistic brainwashing mk ultra type people that have had there precious lil lives planned out for them by there forefathers like G walker bush for example his old man is one of the main BRainwashers for the illuminati and all other side orgs they have.
Bohemian grove is a meeting place for these two faced leaders and rulers to meet and talk about globalization nuclear wars A bombs etc.. you get the point by now Im sure.
The Grove is guarded by secret service police, the people that go there claim to be christians followers of the lord jesus christ but yet decieptfully they have mock ceremonies where they seek info from a giant cannite deity named molch and then use the eternal flame to burn the effigy of a human being ?
yeah that sounds so normal to me WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
your land was robbed from you people of the free right under your noses and you still attack people telling the truth about what really goes on in your country.
Bohemian grove is just like the masons or the skull and bones or the OTO all deceiptful groups preying on weak minds to munipulate through time and order truly lame all you people dont see it the way you should.
It is too bad parents can't do a good job raising strong individuals, but I guess that is what religion and things like scientology are for hey lol
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BRainwasher for the illuminati
Originally posted by EdenKaia
Bohemian grove is a place for these sadistic brainwashing mk ultra type people that have had there precious lil lives planned out for them by there forefathers like G walker bush for example his old man is one of the main BRainwashers for the illuminati and all other side orgs they have.
Bohemian grove is a meeting place for these two faced leaders and rulers to meet and talk about globalization nuclear wars A bombs etc.. you get the point by now Im sure.
The Grove is guarded by secret service police, the people that go there claim to be christians followers of the lord jesus christ but yet decieptfully they have mock ceremonies where they seek info from a giant cannite deity named molch and then use the eternal flame to burn the effigy of a human being ?
yeah that sounds so normal to me WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
your land was robbed from you people of the free right under your noses and you still attack people telling the truth about what really goes on in your country.
Bohemian grove is just like the masons or the skull and bones or the OTO all deceiptful groups preying on weak minds to munipulate through time and order truly lame all you people dont see it the way you should.
It is too bad parents can't do a good job raising strong individuals, but I guess that is what religion and things like scientology are for hey lol
The rant section is down the hall to the left. Anyway, in response to this, I would pose a question to you. But first, a few brief words from the legacy begotten by our:
BRainwasher for the illuminati
"Wow! Brazil is big." —George W. Bush, after being shown a map of Brazil by Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Brasilia, Brazil, Nov. 6, 2005
"My thoughts are, we're going to get somebody who knows what they're talking about when it comes to rebuilding cities." —George W. Bush, on rebuilding New Orleans, Biloxi, Miss., Sept. 2, 2005
"The relations with, uhh — Europe are important relations, and they've, uhh — because, we do share values. And, they're universal values, they're not American values or, you know — European values, they're universal values. And those values — uhh — being universal, ought to be applied everywhere." —George W. Bush, at a press conference with European Union dignitaries, Washington, D.C., June 20, 2005
Now, you are going to tell me that this man is involved in a sinister plot to bring the entire world to its knees in a New World Order? And then there is "Masons are evil" tirade you have going on. Each week it seems, a few others and myself address this same issue. What is feeding the fire? There have been countless allegations of the same disposition from much more grammatically correct men than you, and strangely, none of them seemed to have anything to back up their claims either. Honestly, if you can come up with something legitimate to support even half of this spew, then I will stand humbly corrected. Until then, why post at all? I mean, this is a place where opinionism is highly encouraged, but then, you are also expected to back that opinion with fact. Otherwise, you aren't ever going to get anyone to take you seriously. Seriously.
with an eternal flame that burns forever it is called the Cremation of Care, but on the other hand these people such as george walker bush claim to be loving christians and church going people but yet they worship an old cannite deity in so called mock theater like ceremonies like come on this is deemed reasonable and normal to your society.
effigy - A crude figure or dummy representing a hated person or group.
Originally posted by seridium
..with an eternal flame that burns forever it is called the Cremation of Care, but on the other hand these people such as george walker bush claim to be loving christians and church going people but yet they worship an old cannite deity in so called mock theater like ceremonies like come on this is deemed reasonable and normal to your society.
Originally posted by seridium
3rd world countries lack education & knowledge for 2 simple reasons the first being easier to control second of all they will work for nothing and make corporations huge profeits.
this is how a new world order will be made with the funds of the IMF the help of the UN and the plans of the illuminati.
You see man like most people you always miss the point, now let me ask you can you comprehend the purpose of Bohemian Grove?
Do you know what goes on there?
And for the Freemasons you guys are very quick to defend your org as a whole and oviously not knowing the real purpose of a secret org such as the freemasons liek I said before deceiptful groups preying on weak minds to munipulate through time and order, with half the world in fear do peopel really want to know or speak the truth I think not!
And I dont need to prove your government is a bad fascist regime everyone knows this already like the whole world that is except most americans cant face the truth or soemthing who knows?
Originally posted by EdenKaia
Originally posted by seridium
3rd world countries lack education & knowledge for 2 simple reasons the first being easier to control second of all they will work for nothing and make corporations huge profeits.
I am failing to understand how work for cheap wages, and the ease by which small governments are molded by their larger peers has anything to do with why they are lacking in education and knowledge. Secondly, education and knowledge? Surely, not BOTH? At the same TIME?
this is how a new world order will be made with the funds of the IMF the help of the UN and the plans of the illuminati.
When was the last time you heard or saw Illuminati activity anywhere in the world that wasn't just some fanatical pointed finger with a weak grip on history? The group is dead. Give them their peace. On another note, the funding of the NWO thing. I know I'm only going to be repeating this and kicking myself in the head later, but I'm going to go out on a limb. Do you have anything to support any of this? Now, before you respond, I am referring to facts. You know, things like documents, links...tangible, unbiased things like that.
I apologize, for it seems that I did nearly comment on everything. Who would have thought it possible?
Originally posted by EdenKaia
You see man like most people you always miss the point, now let me ask you can you comprehend the purpose of Bohemian Grove?
Do you know what goes on there?
I believe the original purpose to altars of gods like that at the Bohemian Grove has been lost on these modern politicians. Yes, I know what goes on there. And I can most definately comprehend its purpose. My issue lies in politicians like Bush(see my above Bush quotes) comprehending the ancient meaning in the worship and idolation of Moloch and those like him.
And for the Freemasons you guys are very quick to defend your org as a whole and oviously not knowing the real purpose of a secret org such as the freemasons liek I said before deceiptful groups preying on weak minds to munipulate through time and order, with half the world in fear do peopel really want to know or speak the truth I think not!
Something you might find funny, I'm not a Freemason, nor are many of those here at ATS that defend the organization against wild, unfounded statements like yours. Perhaps the reason for this completely unbiased support, is that there really is no validity to your wild, unfounded statements. I've seen and said a thousand times before, until you can provide some proof of Freemason involvement in manipulation and exertion upon minds for some end of global domination or some other nonsense, perhaps you should hold off on the accusations. Is it that you are just not aware of the origins of much of the animosity towards Freemasons? I would argue this, but the point would be wasted. For a reason, I would reference you to a post that you, yourself created:
]Freemasons Worship Baphomet?
I think there is enough conclusive evidence there that the Freemasons were set up long ago, and that these stories of satanic worship and whatnot have just been convoluted decendants of these original scams.
I apologize, for it seems that I did nearly comment on everything. Who would have thought it possible?
Originally posted by Trinityman
Seridium
Your unreferenced diatribe is so chocked full of inaccuracies it makes pre-war Iraq intelligence look positively credible.
Use the search feature to discover that most of it has been debunked already.
Originally posted by seridium
please feel free to explain your attempt to redicule me I know that ridicule may be a shield, but it is not a weapon.
At the Second Continental Congress, after the thirteen colonies voted to declare independence from Great Britain, the colonies determined they needed an official seal. So Dr. Franklin, Mr. J. Adams, and Mr. Jefferson as a committee prepared a device for a Seal of the United States of America. However, the only portion of the design accepted by the congress was the statement E pluribus unum, attributed to Thomas Jefferson.
It is said the eagle was used as a national emblem because, at one of the first battles of the Revolution (which occurred early in the morning) the noise of the struggle awoke the sleeping eagles on the heights and they flew from their nests and circled about over the heads of the fighting men, all the while giving vent to their raucous cries. "They are shrieking for Freedom," said the patriots.
Thus the eagle, full of the boundless spirit of freedom, living above the valleys, strong and powerful in his might, has become the national emblem of a country that offers freedom in word and thought and an opportunity for a full and free expansion into the boundless space of the future. --Maude M. Grant
Originally posted by seridium
please feel free to explain your attempt to redicule me I know that ridicule may be a shield, but it is not a weapon.
"Freemasons" the world's largest secret society with five million members (including three million Americans.)
Only their inner circles are aware that the "Craft" is in fact devoted to satanism.
George W. Bush is a member.
As a student at Yale Bush joined its "Skull and Bones" chapter and referred to it in August 2000 in these terms: "My heritage is part of who I am."
Dick Cheney and Colin Powell are also high level Freemasons.
So is Al Gore and Ariel Sharon.
Past Presidents FDR, Harry Truman, Ronald Reagan and Lyndon Johnson were also members.
So are Henry Kissinger, Allen Greenspan and World Bank President James Wolfensohn.
In fact devil worship seems to be a prerequisite for power and success today.
Originally posted by seridium
So why have all the masonic symbols on the US currency?
Many companies use the pyramid within their logos. James Walker, a 32º Mason, shares some facts with us about the above symbols:
•13 leaves in the olive branch
•13 bars and stripes in the shield
•13 arrows in the right claw
•13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon
•3 stars in the green crest above
•32 long feathers on its right wing representing the 32º in Freemasonry
•13 granite stones in the Pyramid. (The 13 layers represent the 13 Illuminati bloodlines)
•13 letters in Annuit Coeptis
It should also be noted that the Eagle has 32 feathers right wing, but 33 in its left wing. The 32 feathers representing the number of ordinary degrees of the Scottish Rite, and the 33 feathers representing the 33º of Freemasonry. The tail feathers number 9, the number of degrees in the York Rite. The eagle itself is a prominent icon of Masonry, being used extensively in the Scottish Rite.
There is a cry in Freemasonry today that the eye in the pyramid is not a Masonic symbol and it never was. At Masonicinfo there is a page which states "the eye in the pyramid is not now nor has it ever been a Masonic symbol."
The author says that he has looked for 3 years for use of this symbol in Freemasonry and has only found 2 examples. I have been inside about 3 Masonic Lodges and 2 of them including the first I went to used the eye in the pyramid, the first one very prominently.
On another Masonic page entitled 'The Eye In The Pyramid' we read "The Great Seal of the United States is not a Masonic emblem, nor does it contain hidden Masonic symbols."
Remember the quote above by one of Freemasonry's highly esteemed men stating it "discloses a mass of occult and Masonic symbols..." Who are we to believe, Freemasonry's GREATEST scholar and philosopher or some other man in Freemasonry with no such credentials.
Let me once and for all establish the eye in the pyramid is Masonic. The image below is taken from 'The New Age' magazine which was the official publication of the Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree of Freemasonry, the most powerful Masonic organization in the America if not the world. It is now called the 'Scottish Rite Journal'. It is from April 1960 and it clearly states that the $1 note is covered in Masonic symbols and it also states "Pyramid with the Masonic All Seeing Eye".
It is also in my publication of the Encyclopedia of freemasonry from 1915.
I also have a pic of a plaque from a masonic image taken from the headquarters of Freemasonry in Queensland, Australia showing prominently the Masonic eye in the pyramid. (i can post the pic if need be)
In other words, the Great One, the Anti-Christ will restore the ancient Mysteries, which the Masonic Lodge has preserved these many centuries, as his New World Order Religion.
The first "official" use and definition of the all-seeing eye as a masonic symbol seems to have come in 1797 with The Freemasons Monitor of Thomas Smith Webb — 14 years after Congress adopted the design for the Seal: "...and although our thoughts, words and actions, may be hidden from the eyes of man yet that All-Seeing Eye, whom the Sun Moon and Stars obey, and under whose watchful care even comets perform their stupendous revolutions, pervades the inmost recesses of the human heart, and will reward us according to our merits."
Various gnostic "Luciferian" sects that emphasize the dualism of the universe have also been associated with the image of Lucifer, in the root sense of the "bringer of light". The orthodox view has associated Lucifer with "Satan before the fall", though, as Bishop Lucifer's name attests, Lucifer was not yet associated with "Satan" in the 4th century. Some classically-educated Free-masons used "luciferian" in the scholarly, somewhat pedantic sense of "bringing enlightenment," invoking Prometheus who stole fire from the gods to bring to man. Pro-Catholic polemicists linked such Masonic usage with sects worshiping Lucifer, which have had persistent groups of followers since the Middle Ages.
Originally posted by seridium
the symbols I refered to were the ones refrenced in a encyclopedia of freemasons that I own its from 1915 the page is exactly as the onei found here stateing the symbols of freemasonry on a dollar bill from America
picture
do these symbols generate some kind of power for the people portraying these occultic images is that why they put them on the dollar bill?
from a masonic image taken from the headquarters of Freemasonry in Queensland, Australia showing prominently the Masonic eye in the pyramid.