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Marijuana? Higher state of mind?

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posted on Apr, 12 2005 @ 03:42 PM
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Just a reminder to get this back on track. I'm as guilty as anyone here on this one...
Let's get back to how it relates to UFOs though...




posted on Apr, 12 2005 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by earthtone

Originally posted by Hunting Veritas

Extract from websiteThen in 1988 Allyn Howlett, a researcher at the St. Louis University Medical School, discovered a specific receptor for THC in the human brain--a kind of nerve cell that THC binds to as if it were a molecular key fitting into a lock. When this binding takes place, the nerve cell is activated
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This herb is made for us. It uses an otherwise dormant part of the brain which "normal" people don't use. Expanding the mind indeed, it at least gives it some excercise. Even if you are sitting on the couch, You think more and you are creative. Unless you are just playing playstation which is an ever so constructive pastime. . . . . . It's like our society is scared to embrace the what the earth gives us. We just use chemicals in everything, creating cancer and depression. Our society is turning away from anything natural.


Bravo! .... The truth has been spoken ...

It beyond a doubt lifts man to a higher level of consciousness,,,

People who are afraid to embrace it and claim to be christians do not know what they are missing out on.
Even their Jesus was a user of opiates...

~peace



posted on Apr, 12 2005 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
Just a reminder to get this back on track. I'm as guilty as anyone here on this one...
Let's get back to how it relates to UFOs though...


Umm,

Elohim(who pilot these aircrafts) are behind the illegalization of the plant because it contains a spiritual 'connect' ... ?

Contrary to popular belief,
They know users cannot be manipulated(controlled) quite as easily, if at all ...

btw, i left something out of my post above,
Reference to the usage of opiates by the apostles...

The crucifixion story ....
He is adminstered opium for pain ... Opium he spits out on the ground ...
Not necessarily because he was against its usage but perhaps because the physical pain was a necessary ingredient for ascension ...

yes, among shaman this is known fact ....



posted on Apr, 12 2005 @ 04:13 PM
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Technically Marijuana fits the description of hallucinogen.

"a psychoactive drug that induces hallucinations or altered sensory experiences"

It is a hallucinogen just not in same way your thinking with the visual distortions and geometric clarity. It alters your perception of time, smells and taste.

No I don't think it allows you to contact EBE's. Perhaps you should focus your efforts to the anticholinergic branch, it seems to have a richer history with metaphysical experiences. Any plants containing Atropine have been used for many centuries, often invoking mind blowing visual distortions and allowing communion with the dead.



posted on Apr, 12 2005 @ 04:52 PM
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The crucifixion story .... He is adminstered opium for pain ... Opium he spits out on the ground ... Not necessarily because he was against its usage but perhaps because the physical pain was a necessary ingredient for ascension ... yes, among shaman this is known fact ....

Excellent point, ShawNee922. I am not aware that opium has a taste, tho'. Can anyone confirm this? Perhaps Jesus 'knew' there were drugs in the wine but still went through the ritual of tasting it and spitting it out.

Jesus obviously drank wine regularly otherwise the Jews would not have had cause to call him a 'drunkard' as in Luke 7:33:



30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.

31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like?

32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept.

33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.

34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

35 But wisdom is justified of all her children.

How does one deduce 'drunkenness' in Jerusalem, circa 32 AD? I'm not sure.



posted on Apr, 12 2005 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by smallpeeps
How does one deduce 'drunkenness' in Jerusalem, circa 32 AD? I'm not sure.



Well, if you see Jesus with more than 2 eyes, you are probably a drunken apostle:






Just ignore the hooch, unless that's what you were into in the first place.



[edit on 12-4-2005 by intrepid]



posted on Apr, 12 2005 @ 05:14 PM
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This thread is dangerously skirting the TOS regarding discussion of drug use folks... I'm pretty flexible on such "gray" threads as these, but we're off the original topic still. Hate to be a stickler on it, but give an inch, take a mile...etc.


Lets get back to relating to the original point here....



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 01:30 AM
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edit: just read gazrok's last post


you can get rid of this, sorry


[edit on 4/13/2005 by Its_True_I_Promise]



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 01:41 AM
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This thread is dangerously skirting the TOS regarding discussion of drug use folks... I'm pretty flexible on such "gray" threads as these, but we're off the original topic still. Hate to be a stickler on it, but give an inch, take a mile...etc.

Lets get back to relating to the original point here....


16.) Discussion of illegal activities such as drug use, drug paraphernalia, hacking, etc. are strictly forbidden.

Gazrok, how is this supposed to be interpreted? I see lots of threads about cannabis. Where is the line drawn? Legally, I can use booze or cannabis in front of a cop, where I live, and he cannot do a thing about it. God bless California.

Now, aren't we allowed to discuss alternative therapies and medicines?



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by smallpeeps

The crucifixion story .... He is adminstered opium for pain ... Opium he spits out on the ground ... Not necessarily because he was against its usage but perhaps because the physical pain was a necessary ingredient for ascension ... yes, among shaman this is known fact ....

Excellent point, ShawNee922. I am not aware that opium has a taste, tho'. Can anyone confirm this? Perhaps Jesus 'knew' there were drugs in the wine but still went through the ritual of tasting it and spitting it out.


Yes, opium has taste. Stronger if smoked though



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 02:58 AM
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The way I interpret it is that for centuries tribes etc have all used substances, and still do in one form or another , to acheive a higher consciousness.
It has always been an accepted part of any culture although we may have slipped down the food chain a little and invented beer...

The indians smoked their peyote while buddhists use meditation. I know meditation isn't a drug, but technically they are all the same thing, just catalysts that help get you to an end point - the same end point.

It just makes the journey easier so to speak and hey who wouldn't want to take a short cut, right?

Therin lies the danger.

You end up with the answer, but you don't know how you got there. You can't show your workings so to speak so you are still lost.

It's like we are all explorers, this isn't meant to be rude, but to me it's like drug users are uneducated scientists. We are all searching for the same thing just in different ways.
We will all end up in the same place but the journey is what we make of it.

And no, I'm not smoking a doobie but I do beleive in the *sensible knowledge* of an individuals right to self administer psychoactive medication.



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 03:19 AM
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'___' and K though, do seem to have a VERY high incidence of users reporting contact with beings.

K is also known as Ketamine, 'horse tranquilizer', but it is a conscious sedative used in hospital occasionally (as I have witnessed it...), but lights are mostly kept at a minimum, and the dosages low, which seems to decrease the possibilty for a 'nightmare' significantly.

'___' occurs naturally in your brain, and so this is extremely interesting, to read accounts of people's experiences, but '___' is heavily suppressed, super rare, so thats probably the only drugs I can think of that associate 'beings' with the 'state of awareness' achieved when doing these drugs.

I don't believe aliens could communicate whenever they wanted. They have to be waiting for a reason, unsure of themselves, or something up the sleeve, if you believe in that kind of thing?



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by HukdUnFonixWerks


Oh man, you got a good nickname LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!


Originally posted by HukdUnFonixWerks
I just finished reading the thread by "sleeper" "Are aliens real, as real as the nose on your face". He stated "You have to really be drunk or drugged up to meet them face to face", this is where I'll start. Being doped on some meds, being high, and being drunk all involve you being consciously a little more distant from your body, you aren't really sure what's going on sometimes.

...........What ya think?


I've never read it. Is it a book? An article on a website?

I've heard though that many types of drugs can/might/do/may allow the person taking them to get a peek at other dimensions and/or densities. This is why soooo many ancient civilizations (like Native Americans and others) used drugs or "drugs" in their ceremonies. To help them see and communicate with the gods or "gods". Really just beings living in different dimensions and/or densities.

To everyone else, you don't automatically see other beings after taking say weed. You have a better chance of seeing other beings if they're around, or in the area and your on drugs. That's how the thinking goes.

In addition, you have to be aware, concious, or into, or have a greater understanding of what the bigger, or big picture is... before you take the drugs. Or else you won't know what to look for. And/or you'll easily be able to be influenced by the other beings into not seeing them.

I strongly recommend everyone check out the movie "They Live!. It's 99% accurate on how it all works. Take the drugs, and it works just like the special glasses Rowdy Roddy Piper was wearing. He knew what to look for, so he paid more attention while he was experiencing the altered state.

I can't say if its true or not true. There's enough evidence to not disprove it. IMHO it can't be proven, or disproven. Up to everyone to attempt to experience it for theirselves. It's strange though how weed used to be goverment law that you MUST grow it!!! For hundreds of years it was law! Then in the 1970's Rockerfeller pushed to make weed illegal, and on same level as heroin, crack, coc aine, and other much worse drugs.



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 07:43 AM
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Gazrok, how is this supposed to be interpreted? I see lots of threads about cannabis. Where is the line drawn? Legally, I can use booze or cannabis in front of a cop, where I live, and he cannot do a thing about it. God bless California.

Now, aren't we allowed to discuss alternative therapies and medicines?


It's a gray area. The discussion of drugs in connection with the topic as posted is acceptable, but then we got into posts directly discussing various means of usage, etc. and that's when it crosses the line (in my adjudication). I'd rather err on the side of keeping the thread, hence my warnings.


The last few posts have been on track though, so just to answer your question, as in most things, there is no line, only shades of gray...and it's our job as mods to adjudicate when it goes from gray to black.
We aren't there yet, so I'd like to keep it that way....



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by nukunuku

Originally posted by Reptilian_Queen
Marijuana is a hallucinatory drug. When high you can convince yourself you've been talking with Elvis all night. If you really want to see if you can contact Aliens, try excercising your psychic abilities through deep meditation.

[edit on 12-4-2005 by Reptilian_Queen]


I beg to differ, i never had any hind of hallucinations from pot . What do you smoke over there


I do agree on the meditation part though


I smoke absolutely nothing nor do a drink. I'd rather be in full control of all of my faculties thank you very much.

Edit: Taste.

[edit on 4/13/2005 by Amorymeltzer]



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 10:32 AM
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i said it before and ill say it again dont judge something you dont understand.


Seeing the result if lifelong Pot Usage crawling into my place of employment and fouling up my night is enough of an anti-drug. There's nothing I hate more than delusional junkies.

Tell me your not associating delusional junkies with marijuana, some people might say marijuana is addictive but its nothing in comparison to heroin so dont even compare the two.


Edit: taste.


[edit on 4/13/2005 by Amorymeltzer]



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 11:22 AM
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I think the initial point of this thread has been lost.



posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 12:51 PM
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Reminds me of Robert Anton Wilson's experiences in his book Cosmic Trigger

In the book he describes how he used '___' and had experiences with *something* or someone, possibly connected with Sirius.



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