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Your beliefs are based on alot of things including what you've been told, along with all the other masses who've had the wool pulled over their eyes.
The conscious rational mind and logical thinking is used to understand and interpret the information and messages from the inner being.
Originally posted by Hanslune
Hans: But Satellite aren't you just repeating what you've been told to believe by reading these fringe books? How do you know you haven't had the wool pulled over your eyes? Rather self-centric of you to assume you're information and view of the world is correct and everyone else is wrong. How do would you falsify your beliefs?
Hans: That seems at odds with your earlier comments. How is it your "rational and logical mind" makes up stuff that is unevidenced or goes against known knowledge? Aren't you really saying, I make up stuff, believe it and this somehow makes me rational and logical? Belief is not rational nor logical.
Hans, I think you’re right out of line here. The tone of your posts are getting worse.
I suggest you re-read what Hollywood wrote. Some questions you’re asking can’t be answered here, for if you were to understand, which I highly doubt,
would be like giving a child a loaded gun.
There is a reason why truth & knowledge are worked hard for, and that it comes step by step with personal growth, very real changes, and only to the absolute sincere.
The things you are talking about here are concepts that you don’t understand, yet, as I see it, you don’t really want to understand.
Your frame of mind is not one of humility, receptivity & genuine inquiry, but one of aggression & confrontation.
That’s not the way of True Love (kindness, caring & harmlessness), which is what it’s all about.
Ever asked yourself the question… why do & did monasteries exist? Could at least part of the answer be that they were somewhat buffered against the rage, hatred and selfishness of others? Perhaps buffered from some of the darkness in this world, to assist in seeking the light?
How can you expect to be shown something when you don’t have the eyes to see?
You do not have the consciousness nor understanding of what you’re aggressively asking. It would be like pearls of wisdom cast before swine.
As for your questions to me….“But satellite aren't you just repeating what you've been told to believe by reading these fringe books?
No Hans, not repeating what LTA told me, it comes from direct experience within an altered state of consciousness.
LTA ‘teaches’ not to blindly believe in anything,'
including the very teachings themself.
Kind of a paradox I know, but as I understand it, a paradox is the closest thing we can get to truth in this low vibratory limited state.
And all this takes place through practice & growth in the art of Selflessly Loving all. For all is One.
If you really want to know more, buy the book. I think you can get it for as little as ten USA dollars nowadays. LTA is no ordinary book.
Well Hans, whatever knowledge or information you come across in the future, I hope you give it much more thought & contemplation than what you've given LTA & of those that live a different lifestyle to you.
I vehemently disagree with your pitiful assessment of LTA.
Considering that you haven't read the book, I am surprised you can so confidently & arrogantly come to the woeful conclusions that you have.
LTA is not only about being kind, caring, compassionate & harmless, or "new age" as you put it. It also involves doing dirty work, ie: giving & soliciting criticism/reflections. It's not about being 'nice nice' as you expect me to be because of your interpretation of what I wrote.
Again, it's in the book in much more detail, and presented far better than what my limited consciousness can provide.
But Hans, you've got it all sorted I guess, and anything that threatens the viewpoint of your little world, you defend it with offense.
A classic case of 'blocking'. I've seen it many times before, in myself & others. But that's just my opinion.
I urge anyone who is looking for truth & understanding of themself & the world around, to read LTA. It could well be a life changing event.
Not really you just think that because I’m asking questions you cannot answer or are making you uncomfortable.
I've had a lot of contact with Shinto and Buddhist priests, those comments are not those of a person truly at peace - they are the words of pseudo new ager.
Satellite wrote… There is a reason why truth & knowledge are worked hard for, and that it comes step by step with personal growth, very real changes, and only to the absolute sincere.
Hans replied… Who says? You were told that – why do you believe it?
I find that people who talk in new age “words” often have no idea what they are saying, which is why I’m asking questions.
They seem to be out of the new age book of bafflement.
I think its called asking questions, what you seem to be suggesting is blind acceptance. However you seem to be aggressive and confronting - how can you be doing that??
Satellite wrote… Ever asked yourself the question… why do & did monasteries exist? Could at least part of the answer be that they were somewhat buffered against the rage, hatred and selfishness of others? Perhaps buffered from some of the darkness in this world, to assist in seeking the light?
Hans replied... You then are unaware of the politics and personal conflicts that effects some monasteries. But why do religions exist?
Hans: Hmmmm you are defending a fake book full of psycho bable - as if it were real book of 'wisdom'.
So if you hadn’t read those fringe books would you know this material? So you DID get your ideas from those books - and you swallowed what they told you hook line and sinker.
Satellite wrote…Kind of a paradox I know, but as I understand it, a paradox is the closest thing we can get to truth in this low vibratory limited state.
Hans replied... Wonderful new age vocab to cover up the word that should be used, meaningless dribble, low vibratory limited state.
Yes that does seem to be a problem
Nope I cannot claim to have it all sorted out but I do have a good sense of detecting nonsense. I see that Hollywood offen makes up stuff and doesn’t defend it - is that one of the things he learned from LTA? My world isn’t little yours is and you are speaking out of a tiny little box of make believe.
What happened to respecting peoples Free Will choices? As long as our Free Will choices aren’t hurting others, then what’s the problem?
Within the recorded history of many cultures, there are references to the great island continent of Atlantis, and its highly sophisticated civilization. Some people dismiss this as myth. Many of these cultures had no known contact or knowledge of each other’s civilizations, so why would such diverse ancient peoples, such as the Maya, the Egyptians, the Hopis, or the Greeks, have the same legends?
Originally posted by Harte
nor the Egyptians, nor even the Greeks themselves have anything in their culture that even remotely resembles what Plato wrote concerning the fictional land of Atlantis.
Why would any thinking person, who had these absolute facts that I have stated available to them, read any further in this ridiculous attempt at creating a cash cow than the above error-filled statement?
Why would anyone trust anything else stated therein when it is undeniably and absolutely certain that the author is either operating under mistaken assumptions or purposefully lying to gain converts?
Plato, a highly respected Greek philosopher and teacher, gives a detailed, nonfiction account of Atlantis. Due to that and other factors, many scientists no longer argue about the existence of Atlantis - just the whereabouts.
But if Atlantis, as Plato described it, was a highly advanced, sophisticated civilization, with technology that even surpasses that which we have now, shouldn’t there be some other remnant of their society?
The leader was required to furnish for the war the sixth portion of a war-chariot, so as to make up a total of ten thousand chariots; also two horses and riders for them, and a pair of chariot-horses without a seat, accompanied by a horseman who could fight on foot carrying a small shield, and having a charioteer who stood behind the man-at-arms to guide the two horses; also, he was bound to furnish two heavy armed soldiers, two slingers, three stone-shooters and three javelin-men, who were light-armed, and four sailors to make up the complement of twelve hundred ships.
Hans: Fairly easy as in an earlier life read extensively in spiritual materials, from the Bible, the Talmuds, Qy’ran Nihongi and etc. The fact that this is new age babble masquerading as “Atlantean” knowledge just makes it even less noticeable.
Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by Hollywood11
You seem to be contradicting yourself, as at one point you are saying that what one learns from books is wrong but if you read the LTA, that book, the LTA, will tell you how to see things correctly?
Is that a correct summary of what you said?
So the ONLY source of knowledge in the world is from the LTA, if one doesn't read the LTA one is lost?
It would seem that the technique you've learned from the LTA is to imagine stuff then insist it is real. But you say the LTA tells you not to believe stuff....which appears to be another contradiction.
Example: you made up that there are more than three halls of record. The dogma of Cacye says three - but you added in more. So where did this information come from? why should we believe you? why do you believe it.
Example: you seem to have the odd idea that what I know, or anyone else who disagrees with you, that their knowledge about archaeology and history came from a school teacher.
Very little did, most comes from self research, visiting as many sites as possible and having worked as an Archaeologists in the Middle East, Hawaii and Mexico. I know that in the fringe world personal experience, seeing things for yourself, have greater value than scientific facts. I have both.
Here is a question for you Hollywood - how do you KNOW the LTA came from "Atlantis"?
Aren't you really just believing what people and fringe books TOLD you to believe?
Secondly, Edgar Cayce in fact CONFIRMS that Tibet and the Pyranees were indeed major areas survivors of Atlantis retreated to.