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Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by MrNECROS
Athiests CAN join Grand Orient Lodges and they DO associate with so called "regular" Lodges just in the same way as blacks who are members of Prince Hall Lodges do, they just can't participate in Scottish Rite or York Rite assemblies in areas where the members are intolerant of their beliefs (or the colour of their skin etc...)
Nothing you have said above has any merit, Necros, and you know it. Stop spreading lies.
All of this really counts for nothing in my experience though, if they think you are susceptible then they will have you no matter who you are or what you believe.
I am so absolutely sick to death of your lies. You are abolustely LAUGHABLE. If you don't want to be a mason, WE DON'T WANT YOU. So get the delusions out of your head. Nobody tried forcing you to become a mason, and your relatives are not masons either. Stop accusing them of being something theyre not, just because you are delirious and paranoid.
Originally posted by MrNECROS
at the moment the only people posting there are Freemasons venting their vitriol at me for making their precious secrets public.
Originally posted by akilles
I want to know what it is about my beliefs that results in my interpretation being invalid, because if I joined, I would still feel the same way about the symbolism.
That Freemasonry('s founder) basically started Science without the belief of God goes unmentioned, of course.
Originally posted by Trinityman
An atheist, not believing in any God, would regard the morality of the Bible as man-inspired. ."
Originally posted by Trinityman
The boring truth is that freemasonry has no place on this forum. There's no secret society, no conspiracy and no ties with the so called Illuminati or NWO.
akilles
That Freemasonry('s founder) basically started Science without the belief of God goes unmentioned, of course.
Well, I don't believe in calling something seemingly superior 'Supreme', OK, buddy.
mrnecros
It is an unusual degree in that looks completely out of place with any of the other series.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Most concern over secrecy stems from two aspects, one is the rituals, and that they containt secret 'esoteric/gnostic/relevatory' information, even direly important information. The other is that masons are made to take an oath to protect the group, and that whenever a mason says that there is nothing going on, that they are lying.
How did you interpret and understand the intiatory oath to stand, or any sort of 'binding' to stand? I mean, obviously you don't expect to get your throat slit for saying something, and most masons here have said that, over any oath, the ideals and practices of the group require them to be lawful citizens.
Its almost silly, and somewhat insulting, to even ask a mason if they're report a murder/cover-up, or tax-fraud or anything, but I think that most of that stems from this intitial binding ceremony.
Originally posted by MrNECROS
I'd say Freemasonry is more secretive now than it has ever been.
I know several hundred Freemasons and NONE of them publically admit it, including family members.
Originally posted by Nygdan
Well, masonry did have a more secretive phase in the past, tho any group that has neckties, rings, crested jackets, car bumper stickers, and big buildings identified as lodges isn't all that secret.
Most concern over secrecy stems from two aspects, one is the rituals, and that they containt secret 'esoteric/gnostic/relevatory' information, even direly important information.
The other is that masons are made to take an oath to protect the group, and that whenever a mason says that there is nothing going on, that they are lying.
How did you interpret and understand the intiatory oath to stand, or any sort of 'binding' to stand? I mean, obviously you don't expect to get your throat slit for saying something, and most masons here have said that, over any oath, the ideals and practices of the group require them to be lawful citizens.
Its almost silly, and somewhat insulting, to even ask a mason if they're report a murder/cover-up, or tax-fraud or anything, but I think that most of that stems from this intitial binding ceremony.
Originally posted by MrExplodingToilet
I'd say Freemasonry is more secretive now than it has ever been.
I know several hundred Freemasons and NONE of them publically admit it, including family members.
Originally posted by Trinityman
Originally posted by MrExplodingToilet
I'd say Freemasonry is more secretive now than it has ever been.
What - you think there are now fewer freemasons posting on the web disproving your lies? You're just annoyed because the easy target that never bit back has started to defend itself, and it's becoming increasingly clear to everyone that you and your fantasies are just that - fantasies.
I know several hundred Freemasons and NONE of them publically admit it, including family members.
So how do you know they're freemasons then? And at several hundred you may know more than me
Originally posted by MrNECROS
28th Degree: Knight of the Sun
Originally posted by MrNECROS
"biting back" ? In your dreams pal - your moth eaten mob can't even get a simple doping/kidnapping right over here, like as if I was ever actually going to get into a stranger's car up in Ranong last month?
Congrats go out to Lodge Patong (ummm anyone care to tell me if these guys are "irregular" or not?) for cutting through my speedo cable week before last and causing me the greatest inconvenience ever of errrr...90 baht ( 2 quid) for a new cable.
Seriously - is this the best can come up with?
Hey, I might even just take a quick holiday back in the UK so you can have a fighting chance.
Three years on and it's still;
MrNECROS: 0
The Legions of Cowardly Mind Controlled Zealots: 0