This forum is filled with hard statistics from real life petro geologists, most of whom agree that we're right around the peak. Again, if this is
fear mongering, where are the real statistics to argue that the peak is much farther off? The real stats are not coming from the "oil elite". The
oil elite is cooking the books to come up with things like 1.2 trillion barrels of reserves in Saudi Arabia (meanwhile, Gwahar is breathing its last
breath trying to keep up with current demand, but yeah, 1.2 trillion barrels of reserves that no one has ever heard of before....).
And there is no sickening depopulation agenda. The overpopulation agenda is what is sickening. Depopulation is just the planets way of evening things
out. Face it, we've reached just about peak everything--aquifers are being sucked dry, so we're at peak water. Fisheries are depleated, so we're at
peak fishing. Soil is being eroded, so we're at peak soil. We're at peak various metals. We're at peak "insert resource here". The exact date of
each event is subject to change, but, there is no doubt all resources are being depleted rapidly. It doesn't exactly matter if there is 30 years of
oil or 80 years of oil if the Western U.S. states have sucked the Colorado River dry and depleted every last ounce of their groundwater does it?
They're not going to make it. Oil is just likely the major event that will start the decline.
As far as surpressed alternatives--what are they? These "alternatives" have been discussed at length in other threads. Most of them are not
surpressed, nor even practical. Oil is, pound for pound, the best energy source on the planet. The real crime is that we've wasted it on personal
transportation for all these years. But there is no secret energy to power cars that is better than oil that the oil companies are sitting on. There
is no secret source for fertilizers, plastics and medicines.
Also, I find the notion that oil companies have murdered to maintain their dominance of the energy sector absurd. Countries might murder for access to
oil, but ExxonMobil, Shell, SaudiAramaco are not out there killing people and mobilizing armies. Not that these are innocent companies, or fighting
for the common good. But, to wildly assert that they're murdering people is a bit of a stretch.
So let's go back to the beginning--first you assert Peak Oil is not true. Then you assert it is not true because the Saudi's magically discovered 1
trillion extra barrels of oil (how geologists missed a discovery that is 5 times larger than all discovered Saudi fields combined is a mystery). Then
you assert that we can't trust oil companies (Saudi Arabia essentially being such an oil company). So which is it? Are the Saudi's lying? If so,
we're back to the hard facts that there is probably somewhere in the vicinity of 700 billion to 1 trillion barrels of recoverable oil left in the
world. Peak Oil this year or next by that estimate, and about 30 years before all easily extactable oil is extracted. Or, are the Saudi's telling the
truth? Then why should we believe them as opposed to the other evil, murdering lying oil elite? Why would the Saudi's suddenly decide to help us all
out and tell the truth (and hence, allievate any concern over shortages and thus reduce price per barrel and their own profit?).
Look, again, peak oil might not be right around the corner. But if that is the case, lets have real data from the skeptics.
You have to also realize who the geologists are working for - the big oil companies, by and large. And the oil elite will also cook the books to show
LESS in reserve to justify higher prices. That was already done in the 1970's bogus 'energy crisis'. There was plenty in reserve - it was a
deliberately created shortage at the gas pumps.
There is no over
population agenda - that implies there is a plan to get everyone to have as many babies as possible. I haven't heard of that
since the pioneer days when the farmers wanted lots of help to clear the land! The de-population agenda I'm referring to is the Committee of 300 plan
to actually kill off mass numbers of people worldwide - a 'culling of the herd' so to speak. The founder of The Club of Rome, Aurellio Peccei,
termed the masses as "useless eaters" - that's you and I included!
Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.
I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of
extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I
am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus.
"The Conspirator's Hierarchy" by Dr. John Coleman (a former intelligence agent) outlined the intent and purpose of the Committee of 300 (which has
a 150-year history) for bringing about the following conditions for all of Earth's citizens. Carefully read the following and notice how remarkably
accurate it is beginning to reflect our current world situation.....
"A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in
the form of a feudal system, as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of
children per family, diseases, wars, famines, etc., until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class (in areas which will be strictly and
clearly defined) remain as the total world population.
"There will be no middle class, only rulers and servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified
code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce these laws in all former countries where no
national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World
Government will be rewarded with the means to live; while those who are rebellious will simply be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus
becoming a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited.
"Only one religion will be allowed and that will be in the form of a One World Government Church, which has been in existence since 1920. Satanism,
Luciferianism and Witchcraft shall be recognized as legitimate One World Government curricula with no private or church schools. All Christian
churches have already been subverted, and Christianity will be a thing of the past in the One World Government.
"In order to induce a state where there is no individual freedom or any concept of liberty surviving, there shall be no such thing as republicanism,
sovereignty or rights residing with the people. National pride and racial identity shall be stamped out and be exterminated in the same manner of the
One World Government experiment carried out by Poli Pot in Cambodia.
"Euthanasia for the terminally ill and the aged shall be compulsory. No cities shall be larger than a predetermined number, as described in the work
of Kalgeri. Essential workers will be moved to other cities if the one they are in becomes overpopulated. Other non-essential workers will be chosen
at random and sent to underpopulated cities to fill ‘quotas.’
“At least 4 billion ‘useless eaters’ shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars, organized epidemics of fatal rapid-acting
diseases and starvation. Energy, food and water shall be kept at subsistence levels for the non-elite, starting with the White populations of
Western Europe and North America and then spreading to other races.
The population of Canada, Western Europe and the United States will be
decimated more rapidly than on other continents, until the world's population reaches a manageable level of one billion, of which 500 million will
consist of Chinese and Japanese races, selected because they are people who have been regimented for centuries and who are accustomed to obeying
authority without question.
"From time to time, there shall be artificially-contrived food and water shortages and medical care to remind the masses that their very existence
depends upon the goodwill of the Committee of 300.
"After the destruction of housing, auto, steel and heavy goods industries, there shall be limited housing, and industries of any kind allowed to
remain shall be under the direction of NATO's Club of Rome, as shall all scientific and space exploration development, limited to the elite under the
control of the Committee of 300. Space weapons of all former nations shall be destroyed, along with nuclear weapons.
"All essential and non-essential pharmaceutical products, doctors, dentists and health care workers will be registered in the central computer data
bank, and no medicine or medical care will be prescribed without express permission of regional controllers responsible for each city, town and
"The United States will be flooded by peoples of alien cultures who will eventually overwhelm White America, people with no concept of what the
United States Constitution stands for and who will, in consequence, do nothing to defend it, and in whose minds the concept of liberty and justice is
so weak as to matter little. Food and shelter shall be the main concern.
"No central bank, save the Bank of International Settlement and the World Bank, shall be allowed to operate. Private banks will be outlawed.
Remuneration for work performed shall be under a uniform predetermined scale throughout the One World Government. There shall be no wage disputes
allowed, nor any diversion from the standard uniform scales of pay laid down by the One World Government. Those who break the law will be instantly
"There shall be no cash or coinage in the hands of the non-elite. All transactions shall be carried out by means of a debit card which shall bear the
identification number of the holder. Any person who, in any way, infringes upon the rules and regulations of the Committee of 300 shall have the use
of his or her card suspended for varying times according to the nature and severity of the infringement.
"Such persons will find, when they go to make purchases, that their card is blacklisted during the transition phase, an individual shall be subject
to the severest penalties to even mention one's racial origin.
"Each person shall be fully indoctrinated that he or she is a creature of the One World Government, with an identification number clearly marked on
their person so as to be readily accessible. This identifying number shall be in the master file of the NATO computer in Brussels, Belgium, subject to
instant retrieval by any agency of the One World Government at any time. The master files of the CIA, FBI, state and local police agencies, IRS, FEMA,
and Social Security shall be vastly expanded and form the basis for personal records of all individuals in the United States.
"Marriage shall be outlawed, and there shall be no family life as we know it. Children will be removed from their parents at an early age and brought
up by wards as state property. Such an experiment was carried out in East Germany under Erich Honnecker when children were take away from parents
considered by the state to be disloyal citizens. Women will be degraded through the continued process of ‘women's liberation’ movements. Free sex
shall be mandatory.
"Failure to comply at least once by the age of 20 shall be punishable by severe reprisals against her person. Self-abortion shall be taught and
practiced after two children are born to a woman; such records shall be contained in the personal file of each woman in the One World Government's
regional computers. If a woman becomes pregnant after she has previously given birth to two children, she shall be forcibly removed to an abortion
clinic for such an abortion and sterilization procedures to be carried out.
"Pornography shall be promoted and be compulsory showing in every theater or cinema, including homosexual and lesbian pornography. The use of
"recreational" drugs shall be compulsory, with each person allotted drug quotas which can be purchased at One World Government stores throughout the
world. Mind control drugs will be expanded, and usage will become compulsory. Such mind control drugs shall be given in food and/or water supplies
without the knowledge and/or consent of the people. Drug bars shall be set up, run by One World Government employees, where the slave-class shall be
able to spend their free time. In this manner, the non-elite masses will be reduced to the level and behavior of controlled animals with no will of
their own and easily regimented and controlled.
"The economic system shall be based upon the ruling oligarchical class allowing just enough foods and services to be produced to keep the mass slave
labor camps functioning. All wealth shall be aggregated into the hands of the elite members of the Committee of 300. Each individual shall be
indoctrinated to understand that he or she is totally dependent upon the State for survival.
The world shall be ruled by Committee of 300
Executive Decrees which become instant law. Boris Yeltsin is using Committee of 300 decrees to impose the Committee's will upon Russia as a trial
run. Courts of punishment and not courts of justice shall exist.
"Industry is to be totally destroyed, along with nuclear powered energy-systems. Only the Committee of 300 members and their elitists shall have
the right to any of the Earth's resources.
Agriculture shall be solely in the hands of the Committee of 300, with food production strictly
controlled. As these measures begin to take effect, large populations in the cities shall be forcibly removed to remote areas, they will not be able
to obtain services of any kind. Attempts to trade "old" coins, that is to say, silver coins of previous and now defunct nations, shall be treated as
a capital crime subject to the death penalty. All such coinage shall be required to be surrendered within a given time, along with guns, rifles,
explosives and automobiles. Only the elite and One World Government high-ranking functionaries will be allowed private transport, weapons, coinage
"If the offense is a serious one, the card will be seized at the checking point where it is presented. Thereafter, that person shall not be able to
obtain food, water, shelter and employment, medical services, and shall be officially listed as an outlaw. Large bands of outlaws will thus be
created, and they will live in regions that best afford subsistence, subject to being hunted down and shot on sight. Persons assisting outlaws in any
way whatsoever, shall likewise be shot. Outlaws who fail to surrender to the police or military after a declared period of time shall have a former
family member selected at random to serve prison terms in their stead.
"Rival factions and groups, such as Arabs and Jews and African tribes, shall have differences magnified and allowed to wage wars of extermination
against each other under the eyes of NATO and U.N. observers. The same tactics will be used in Central and South America. These wars of attrition
shall take place BEFORE the take-over of the One World Government, and shall be engineered on every continent where large groups of people with ethnic
and religious differences live, such as the Sikhs, Moslem Pakistanis and the Hindu Indians. Ethnic and religious differences shall be magnified and
exacerbated, and violent conflict as a means of "settling" their differences shall be encouraged and fostered.
"All information services and print media shall be under the control of the One World Government. Regular brainwashing control measures shall be
passed off as "entertainment", in the manner in which it was practiced and became a fine art in the United States. Youths removed from "disloyal
parents" shall receive special education designed to brutalize them. Youth of both sexes shall receive training to qualify as prison guards for the
One World labor camp system."