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Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

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posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by StarBreather
Sometimes bits and pieces of truth are found in fiction, objects like the "water container" that is used for "space travel". It might not be a water container and it might not be space travel.


Fiction holds more truth than what people call reality.

Fiction talks about space travel, other inhabited worlds, magical star ships---all true

Reality talks about what can be observed----for thousands of years humans observed the sun going around the planet---so that was reality.

Today those with both feet firmly planted on reality believe that billions and billions of star systems are void of intelligent life simply because ET hasn’t picked up the phone and called us.




posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by howmuchisthedoggy


Did I ever ask you about your take on Planet X, www.zetatalk.com and all that jazz? Fear-mongering, or something we should be genuinely concerned about?


Winston Churchill once said that all we have to fear is fear itself.

Lots of fear mongering going on in every level of society---fear sells books, movies, newspapers and every other news medium----keeps the economies of the world going

Fear is an integral part of human nature---we thrive on fear---Halloween, chain saw massacre, etc

1984 big brother was going to get us----2000 the millennium fiasco, that never happened and the religious gloom and doom that goes back thousands of years---but this is the year that it will really happen----well maybe.

There is nothing extraterrestrial that is going to get humans, eat humans, or enslave humans

However humans are known to do all those things. Still regardless of our circumstance it’s only temporary

I haven’t read Planet X or zetatalk but if they are taking about aliens doing us harm then they are selling fear

Having said that----nothing happens on earth without ET’s input----including wars

On the face of this it may appear that there are contradictions going on---but looking at the big picture they do everything for the betterment of all humans.



posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by nullster

But between you and I, we know my aliens are the superior aliens. And they have ok'd you to disclose all your proof to this board by tomorrow.
Now you believe me right? Cool. Can't wait


I’m not insubordinate and if your higher ranking ETs gave me the clearance to release the proof than so be it.

But I can only show you the proof everyone else must ignore this post.

Go look in the mirror---what you see was created by ET

To simple and absurd you say?

Is there any human technology that could create your eyes? Your hearing, your taste buds, your heart, lungs, billions of cells that replaced themselves every few days without you being aware----that the body you resided in today is not the same body you were in last week and the week before all the way back to when you were born?

And by the way before you were born----at the very beginning of you, two strands of microscopic DNA joined together and began creating your body----they would build the most complex machine known to man and do it in less than nine months.

What have you done in the last nine months?



posted on Jan, 10 2006 @ 11:56 PM
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Sleeper,

So if ETs 'listen' to and comprehend each and every mind and all of our thoughts at every moment of every day and they do this to all life in the universe, then what do they with this 'data' that they collect? I mean is reality itself basically a large distributed computational computer that is churning out probabilities, possibilities, within multiple dimensions of reality?

Do they relay this data to God? And thats another question, have the ETs met God? or is God still a mystery? I'm guessing the true reality is still a small part of the whole picture of the super reality.

Also, what is the best way to get in touch with the 'good' ETs? You said to sit alone in the dark and concentrate on thinking of ocmmunicating with them. But are there specific thought patterns that they look for? Specific incantations or rituals that can call them?

Also, are 'angels' and 'demons' basically other forms of ETs?

Also, you said that a majority of the aliens are the 'drones' and the guys who run the drones are rarely seen or remembered, correct?

Also, if our bodies are the creation of the ETs, then why do they fail and have so many problems?

Also, how do you know that Jesus was 'made up' and if so, why would they make up Jesus and create an institution of religion as oppressive as Christianity?

Thank youa gain for all your input.

[edit on 10-1-2006 by SirDomino]



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 08:04 AM
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sleeper what is your take on 2012? sorry if this has been discussed..



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by SirDomino
Sleeper,

So if ETs 'listen' to and comprehend each and every mind and all of our thoughts at every moment of every day and they do this to all life in the universe, then what do they with this 'data' that they collect? I mean is reality itself basically a large distributed computational computer that is churning out probabilities, possibilities, within multiple dimensions of reality?


You know that all radio and television signals are perpetually drifting out in space

Vibration live on forever---every thought---every action----and though we can hide behind names such as sleeper or any other moniker everything that is mine can be traced back to me or whoever it originated from----for eternity.

Data is not collected----whatever you generate follows you where ever you are or go----and whatever you are is known by ET and those at that level. The moment you die depending on who you are you may be at that echelon.

Probabilities and possibilities are human level concepts.



Do they relay this data to God? And thats another question, have the ETs met God? or is God still a mystery? I'm guessing the true reality is still a small part of the whole picture of the super reality.


I hate to ruffle feathers but there isn’t one point where all power emerges from---the universe is billions of times larger that what is perceive by mortals----it is really a big place----and it is occupied my billions of distinct energy forces like a school of jelly fish

Human reality is a pinprick on a strand of vibrations that make up the smallest part of an atom----super reality is the outward universe


Also, what is the best way to get in touch with the 'good' ETs? You said to sit alone in the dark and concentrate on thinking of ocmmunicating with them. But are there specific thought patterns that they look for? Specific incantations or rituals that can call them?


When you talk to yourself in your head you can also talk to ET---in a conversational voice

When I said to sit alone in the dark I was referring to the fear factor one will encounter when they are face to face with ET.

Concerning people who pray, many believe that being in a church or on their knees or spinning a prayer wheel will enhance communication with their deities.

Incantations, rituals and chanting not only annoys humans it annoys ET----strait talk is all that is required----they hear your thoughts while you drive to work, go shopping, taking a bath, while you are having dinner, etc

Humans have zero privacy


Also, are 'angels' and 'demons' basically other forms of ETs?


Angels and demons are often the same ET, but they can be separate----it all pays the same.


Also, you said that a majority of the aliens are the 'drones' and the guys who run the drones are rarely seen or remembered, correct?


Drones are soulless machines that operate on their own like a washing machine or space probes that function at the discretion of ET


Also, if our bodies are the creation of the ETs, then why do they fail and have so many problems?


Humans do have freewill and they can abuse or misuse their bodies---look at how some of us treat our cars, houses and other things entrusted to us.

However, many things are programmed into the body----like a car assembly line----different things go into certain cars.



Also, how do you know that Jesus was 'made up' and if so, why would they make up Jesus and create an institution of religion as oppressive as Christianity?


I can’t say how I know, I just do

It’s not the institution of Christianity or the other religions and beliefs that are good or bad, it’s the people that are put into positions and are given the opportunity to be good or bad.

Everyone is tested on this planet----to prove to themselves what they are truly made of



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 09:41 AM
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I would have to say..............................

I have been reading and seeing a lot of things. There is no one place or siting that can not be discredited or made to look the way it did.
Before I get the label as just a nonbeliever of UFOs
I am a believer in God!
I would love to find out some real info on UFOs or something.
I do not think that We are the only ones out here! I know that 50% of the sightings of UFOs are just Experimental Aircraft.
The one thing I do know and I would say most of You guys would say I wright on this is. If We were out in space looking at some planet that had a race for beings that acted like us on it, would You make contact ?



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by noslenwerd
sleeper what is your take on 2012? sorry if this has been discussed..



2012 will be only one more year that we have to pay taxes, get up and go to work, take vacations, be happy about the good things that are happening and sad about the bad things

There will always be wars, rumors of wars, famines, and natural disasters----otherwise we will never get off this planet

Life and death is one and the same----you die here and live somewhere else

It’s been that way forever----and it will be that way forever

But don’t despair----most of existence is really fun



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 09:51 AM
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Thanks for all the quick replies sleeper. Hope all the questions aren't getting annoying. If they are just ignore me


What about the Prophet Yahweh? Was he a load of bull or did he really have the power to summon UFOs.



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by noslenwerd
Thanks for all the quick replies sleeper. Hope all the questions aren't getting annoying. If they are just ignore me


What about the Prophet Yahweh? Was he a load of bull or did he really have the power to summon UFOs.



He had the power that all of us have----to make fools of ourselves




posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Mr101Hazardous
I would have to say..............................

I have been reading and seeing a lot of things. There is no one place or siting that can not be discredited or made to look the way it did.
Before I get the label as just a nonbeliever of UFOs
I am a believer in God!
I would love to find out some real info on UFOs or something.
I do not think that We are the only ones out here! I know that 50% of the sightings of UFOs are just Experimental Aircraft.
The one thing I do know and I would say most of You guys would say I wright on this is. If We were out in space looking at some planet that had a race for beings that acted like us on it, would You make contact ?


If you could help them----would you?



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 10:27 AM
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I can't help but find this very disheartening. I hope no one buys any of this. I could have done a better job of forcing my philosophies down lost, truth seeking human throats. This is just another project Serpo. Jesus was set up by the aliens. Jesus is fake. etc. bah blah blah. Humans will go to any means necessary as long as it gets one's agenda some publicity. Yes aliens are real. Yes, this guy is lieing and trying to spread his own ideas.

[edit on 11-1-2006 by dgoodpasture]



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 10:38 AM
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I'm not saying I'm buying 100% of it either, but I for one appreciate sleeper's contributions and willingness to share. We're all free to make our own judgements on the veracity of claims and I would encourage everyone to do so. But I would also like to encourage as much participation from an alternative perspective as we can get.

Do you know he's wrong? How?



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 10:46 AM
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It's quite simple actually... turn God into E.T.... seen it many times before. Just take an idea from the Bible that you cannot cope with, and turn it into something that makes you happy. And everything else, just say you know it becuase you just do. I've seen nothing that is convincing, just a bunch of words, and logical/well thought out answers to questions, which are a result of the authors own desires and perspectives, not past experiences leading to present knowledge. First he got a free ride inside an alien spacecraft, now he has the answers to the future.... cut me a break here. Everyone's asking him questions like he's the second coming of johntitor.

[edit on 11-1-2006 by dgoodpasture]

[edit on 11-1-2006 by dgoodpasture]



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 10:55 AM
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sleeper - It's your agent. He's interested if your want you're thread here to be aired between Montel Williams and Jerry Springer shows. You know nothing goes better with Trailer Park lust than Aliens and Alien Abductions. 3 hours of IQ killing fun


No Proof Fiction Entertainment at its best. Hey that sounds like a good name for your production company. I look forward to a couple hundred pages of unsubstantiated, zero proof entertainment.


[edit on 11-1-2006 by nullster]



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper
If you could help them----would you?


I don't know................... I would think that they might just try to blow us right out of the sky!



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 01:02 PM
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Sleeper,

Do you know anything about "Project Serpo Project Exchange Program"
that has been disscussed in another thread on this site?



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Truthforall
Sleeper,

Do you know anything about "Project Serpo Project Exchange Program"
that has been disscussed in another thread on this site?



I have read bits and pieces of that tread, but there was no exchange as mention in that tread and others

Humans are taken to other planets every day and returned on the same day----some remember their experiences, most don't.

The government has sent certain scientist on learning expeditions with ET, however most trips off planet are by ordinary people who then return a bit less ordinary.



[edit on 11-1-2006 by sleeper]



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 01:33 PM
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[edit on 11-1-2006 by sleeper]



posted on Jan, 11 2006 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper
The government has sent certain scientist on learning expeditions with ET, however most trips off planet are by ordinary people who then return a bit less ordinary, and a tad more enlightened.


You mean they take all of our small change?



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