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What they don’t want you to know about the New World Order

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posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 10:45 AM
An amazing thread, Captainhemmingway!

An awful lot of food for thought! ( With emphasis on the Awful! )

Many extremely good points......some I've mulled over, but never been able to put so perfectly into words. You have touched on many of my personal 'feelings' that many of the things we take for granted may not be entirely what they seem, or are supposed to seem. ( The food supply's 'fragile' existence really bugs me..... farmland and those who know how to actually work it, are becoming entirely too rare!)

Also, are these 'hidden' masters some of those 'humans' who possibly have the '1000 year lifespand' DNA......or are they something else entirely??

posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 11:31 AM
The difference from plagarism distinguished from research is the citation of sources. Does most all of your posting have ideas from others unattributed? There is a great deal of self assertion, no links, no footnotes, no supportive text.

Yours is quite a long posting, and looks more like it should be research moreso than simply blogging from the top of your head. It is helpful to cite sources, although in these discussions your posting is not necessarily plagarism since of course it is not submitted academically and you are not asking for academic credits.

I do not believe that all politicians are necessarily heartless, nor exclusive bastions of raw warfare. That function may be a part of the entire picture, but why have a set of treaties that reduce conflict, when the objective is war? Perhaps that is a matter of control.

Having studied World Order Models Design, under ARPA fundiing at the University of Hawaii, in the early 1970s, I understand open ended functions of such a study. People anywhere can research and submit proposals independently. There are alternative futures regarding any concept of world government, this is possible through academic channels. In that light it is a"bottoms up," process as well as a "top down," factor. Mostly those who have the gold make the rules, however there is something better than gold, good ideas.

[edit on 13-4-2005 by SkipShipman]

posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 04:31 PM
Well, let me put it this way and you can decide if you want to continue to partake in this thread or this discussion, since it obviously offends your establishment sensibilities. Firstly all work is original, and below there are some quotes and some sources cited. Now, I’m not here to trick you into reading these posts. Only that I should warn you, right now, it is a post full of answers – and it contains the greatest answer of all – and it is our darkest truth and the greatest hidden secret and I fully expect billions not to want to hear it - let alone read about it.

And so with respect to your freedom of choice, I will state immediately what it is about and if you so desire you close the post and go about your life not to be again hindered by such troublesome ideas for some time to come…

Are you ready?

Take a deep breath…

YOU are literally FOOD.

YOU were bred to be FOOD

The human race is and always has been


As you look about your birth-world, the planet earth, you can see and realise that there is a certain principle at work where energy transference or ‘food’ is concerned. We naturally think ourselves at the top of the food chain because nothing eats us physically, aside from the odd troublesome shark that is – perhaps you now realise why that shark movie suggestively contains the truest of all horror, we consider ourselves exempt from the universal law of energy consumption. Furthermore, we have been deliberately conditioned by our religious and political ‘shepherds’ through all ages of man to believe that we are literally aspects of the divine and thus, though it’s never stated in such words, the even further bolsters the automatic assumption that we are therefore exempt from this energy transference system to the degree that the question simple rarely if ever arises in most human minds.

We believe collectively that somehow our creator gave us life simply out of love and that there is no ‘cosmic food chain’ ambiguity above our level of existence that might pose a problem for our very survival, or even finally and terrifyingly reveal the true and only logical meaning for our existence.

And let me state something even worse – as far as we are concerned:


(Though we are far from free of their interference - as we shall see!)

As the many timeless Eastern philosophies and 60’s rock musicians may contend All you need is Love - implying that Love itself being an energy is all the sustenance we need.

If only it were that simple.

Perhaps it is, but we’d be fools not to investigate the matter first…

What we are to discover, is the truth some of you may already have suspected deep inside your being. Something that virtually ALL the mythologies and folk tales of the human race clearly tell us - that perhaps our very God given or mysteriously divine life-force constitutes a food for some higher hidden intelligent life force that keeps us bound on earth, and that exists in realms beyond our perception.
So evolved is it, that is looks upon us as nothing more than a crop – self-pruning plants that live and die in a solar greenhouse. It may well be the case that very soon, as we begin our embarkation into the Age of Aquarius the radiant energies of the ‘new age spiritual dawn of mankind’ will begin to ring the cosmic dinner bell – and surely, unavoidably and inevitably dinner will be served.

It is clear that we are just about smart enough to herd here together in relative comfort and style on this beautiful paradise island in space, but not quite smart enough to figure a way off or even why we were even born here.

(Please don’t mutter ‘moon landings’ to yourself until 6.5 billion of us are suitably capable of living elsewhere in the universe! This earth is the ONLY place we know of capable of supporting our species)

After all, though I do say it rather harshly, each and every one of very own (loving, giving?) societies have all conclusively proven throughout the ages:

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

And what’s more – this is not the first time it’s happened and it won’t be the last…

This is a story that’s been writing itself for as long as humankind has been able to think, reason and ask the most basic essential questions about his or her own existence, namely: ‘Why am I here?’ and perhaps I may add a rather tongue in cheek, but ultimately well intentioned question: ‘Why doesn’t anyone think our being here on earth, alone and non the wiser about our origins, extremely odd?’

To think that we are thrust into existence, into life and awareness, without any kind of prior consent or agreement and into a world which upon immediate and reasoned analysis is utterly insane and should, according to the immovable laws of physics, technically not exist requires upon the part of most modern intellectual human beings a great deal of suspended disbelief, either that of an incredible amount of faith in science or religion.
If your reading this book now it is almost a certainty that you were inexplicably squeezed out of your mothers’ womb onto this ball of rock and ocean we call ‘the earth’ and that we are currently speeding through the galaxy at a speed of approximately 80,000 km per hour, around an equally inexplicably huge ball of fire we call ‘the sun’; without which life on earth certainly wouldn’t exist. Indeed turkeys probably ponder view their heat lamps with similar wonder!
All of this ‘planetary nonsense’ is conveniently dangling around in the infinite darkness of space - which we are assured by scientists is just ‘a vast piece of emptiness which one day just blew up’.
Now the fact that you can see the earth from the moon, already tells you that all that so called ‘dark emptiness’ is, at the very least, full of unseen light streaming towards you with the endlessly embedded information ‘picture of moon’ in each and every bit of it.

On top of that elementary lunacy your expected to work, eat, breed and sometimes-even kill just to survive depending on which country you were randomly born in. If your very lucky you’ll get to enjoy the circus of life with some considerable material comfort for, anything up to, 100 years at which point your going to die and, again on the comforting and unfounded evidence of scientists, you will cease to exist.

Another reason that this message has become so critical for these times is that it’s principle intention is to arouse in the reader a sense of urgency regarding their own principle motivating energies and why there is a curious but exponential rise in matters of the occult.

Oddly enough by following certain ‘occult’ threads carefully woven into the fabric of time and space, nature and the very genetic foundations of all life on earth many, initially rather ordinary, individuals have seemingly risen to great social, financial, religious or political prominence. More often than not they cease to be very ordinary people and instead become rather dangerous lunatics or at the very least eccentrics who go onto to alter the course of human history irrevocably. They suddenly abandon their farms or law practices and start planning wars in their ruthless pursuit of power!. This kind of pattern has been controlling the evolution of this planet, and more specifically, of the human species throughout recorded history.
It will become apparent that there are actually two paths one can take in life, and these have been cleverly intertwined throughout the ages to misdirect and confuse the unwary. Fortunately for us they do very occasionally separate. Now is a time of such separation and via the dark and powerful energies of the occult the ruling elite has subtly attempted to guide most of mankind to choose the darker path.
Indeed, it will be revealed that we are continually signalled as to the existence of various crossover points between the ‘paths’ or ‘threads’.
If we can learn to recognise these crossover points we can, at those specific moments in our lives, simply choose to switch.
I for one don’t contend to know what difference that will make in the end but at least you get to choose!

The late great science fiction writer Philip K Dick spent his entire life examining the reality of our world and specifically this phenomenon. He wrote about it continually in all his works. He gave it the label, ‘Zebra’ or ‘VALIS’ which stand for Vast Living Information system because he said it was nothing less that the Divine concealing itself in our world, in order to avoid being noticed.
Recognition of these paths is nothing less than the recognition of your very own personal divine life plan invisibly woven into the almost infinite array of life. The choice is always there, concealed just beyond the boundaries of ordinary perception, until the moment you are ready to embrace it.
We are, it would seem, approaching an age where the dreams and desires of each and every living individual will be merged and some say fulfilled, if not by some supernatural event as some may hope, then certainly by the miracles of technology, and then path you have embraced will define the next phase of your evolution.
Those wishing to find themselves waging war in an alien infested landscape, or slaying demonic beasts in a ‘middle earth’ full of orcs, wargs and wizards may find the exact reality of their choosing will become attainable, and probably extremely affordable within their lifetime.

However, when such possibilities finally arrive, they may well be something we all may live to regret.

And so it is with this information that I aim to unveil the reality of the great game and give you for just a brief moment in your life, a clear mind – an opportunity, to recognise which path your on and - if that is your desire- to be able to switch over. You may make your choice without duress, spin or confusion. This is not information about the Bible or the Devil – although their appearance is marked throughout in various disguises.

Since the ‘paths’ are often deliberately concealed, you can perhaps think of this information as a decoder.

However, In the end the old Illuminati dictate ‘I am above duality’ will carefully reveal that our ‘gifted’ leaders know exactly what the nature of reality is really all about. They give you black and white choices, neither of which constitutes the true reality. Make no mistake, there is a war going on – and the prize is somewhat dramatically - your very own soul.

Whilst ordinarily I would advise one to tread very carefully through the ancient tales and myths for they are written to conceal and baffle the uninitiated as much as they are there to point the way, occasionally there is a metaphor which is too sublime to be ignored.
The Greek myth relating to Ariadne’s thread and Theseus’s use of it to escape the labyrinth of the Minotaur is a perfect case in point. On the surface it is an ordinary tale of monsters and maidens and the young hero Theseus whose headstrong impulsiveness carries him boldly into the maze to find and kill the Minotaur in order that he may have his woman.
What is interesting about the allegory is that in killing the minotaur, being half beast- half man, the hero is indeed killing the primal bestial nature of himself- of man. After doing so by following the divine golden thread of Ariadne he is able to return from the underworld for his prize. The message is simply that the primal nature of man is overcome and that through love the hero will be triumphant. The ego, perhaps, has been slain.
This is precisely the kind of hidden riddle that alludes to the existence of a second thread and a better higher purpose to the existence of human life on earth. It is a life path needing no priests, no rule of law, no prisons either real or imagined, but only the wisdom and purity of a higher self-purpose to always find and follow with courage and resolution your pure and true course.

It is with this information that I hope to rekindle the personal desire to find each and every thread laid down for us as individuals in order that we might strip away the poisonous manipulation and socially acquired barriers that prevent us from fulfilling our lives in peace and harmony as our souls desire. Ultimately, that we may all consciously take our place in a pure divine plan which plays no tricks and tells no lies, and maybe avoid becoming lunch for some unspeakable cosmic entity.

The nature of freewill has been imperceptibly feathered into our lives. The other ‘darker path’ often masquerades as glitter, shiny and golden and yet it is often the path that simply takes us deeper into the maze. One way or another we will all have to confront the monster, however, we need to be sure that it is your true self that is slayer and not the slayed. In your true reality the golden thread is the one that brings us out of the maze.
Our history is literally scattered with stories, clues and evidence of these paths and we can all learn by the examples of those who took them.

People are now beginning to realise that, wherever you live across the entire planet, virtually every aspect of your waking and sleeping lives is being manipulated by an omnipresent authoritarian establishment. Furthermore we are all being conditioned towards, what increasingly looks to be, a distinctly ominous ending. Our recently acquired 20th century lifestyle now tentatively routes us along carefully designed ‘wide option’ furrows towards an illusory perpetual future of vapid high-level consumerism and an artificial and rather plastic ‘hi-class’ post-industrial lifestyle.
As a result we are more disconnected from our place in nature than at any other time in our recorded history. I think to a degree that science has even perversely convinced some that mankind could possibly even survive without nature.

Why go to so much effort to organise so many people into such a futile ‘passing of time’? .
What are the ‘goals’ of the human race collectively and individually?
Why does no government or ruling hierarchy on earth have any long-term ‘game plan’? .
The answer is they do have a game plan – it’s just been extraordinarily well hidden by its true masters and the last thing they want is ordinary people meddling with it.

In short, through careful examination of just about every social, physical, spiritual knowledge base and cultural practice mankind has ever assembled or had inflicted upon itself, it is clear beyond doubt that by something or by somehow we are held as prisoners on this planet and that through certain initiatory rituals certain individuals can connect, communicate and receive temporal powers, insights or knowledge from this energy/entity in order to sway human progress.

At this point to give you a ‘crash course’ in New Age revelations perhaps the most succinct of possibilities was outlined by the world famous Carlos Castaneda – remarkably enough the idea of humans as food only cropped up in his philosophy right at the end of his literary works and shortly before he died. In the following passage from The Active Side of Infinity the Mexican Shaman Don Juan is revealing to us a story we will find becomes rather familiar as we tread through history;

The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were the first ones to see those fleeting shadows, so they followed them around. They saw them as you're seeing them, and they saw them as energy that flows in the universe. And they did discover something transcendental."
He stopped talking and looked at me. His pauses were perfectly placed. He always stopped talking when I was hanging by a thread.
"What did they discover, don Juan?" I asked.
"They discovered that we have a companion for life," he said, as clearly as he could. "We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so."

Why has this predator taken over in the fashion that you're describing, don Juan?" I asked. "There must be a logical explanation."
"There is an explanation," Don Juan replied, "which is the simplest explanation in the world. They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, gallineros, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

What could this entity it be? Is it real or just a fantastic literary invention? We will return to Carlos Castaneda’s ‘illuminating’ insights later on in the book since he as well as a great deal of other human beings had clearly tapped into the darkest secret of all.

However, we will clearly ascertain that the only scientifically and intellectually obvious, if not utterly grim, reason for our existence is that we will, if were not careful, simply end up as a food or energy source for that life form who hides a few notches higher up the food chain. That could be the price for failure!
To be consumed by the Minotaur at the centre of the maze we have all begun to seek out!
Many men have been bought and sold and have risen to great earthly heights for only the brief flickering of their lives. They have literally been ‘illuminated’ in the ways of black magic and Science in order to police the ‘paths to enlightenment’. Their dark and elevated purpose being to mask the twin paths and muddy the waters in order that you, also, may be lured into wandering off the beaten track.

Furthermore, it is with alarm and an ever growing frustration that I find a great deal of allegedly ‘whistle blowing’ books, movies or TV shows are deliberately contributing to this millennia old ‘misinformation programme’. They are designed to keep us from discovering the fairly obvious truth about this planet and why we came here. Evidence of foul play and endless ‘cover ups’ are repeatedly linked to age old ‘occult’ networks of power that have somehow managed the extraordinary feat of retaining absolute authority for an easily provable 2000 years, and if you’ll grant me a small degree of speculative license perhaps even 10,000 to 100,000 years or more.

To suggest you are merely food however is not to suggest that there is no afterlife, no hope and that all evidence points to oblivion – indeed far from it.
After dismissing such a gruesome idea momentarily, the findings ultimately reveal a glimmer of hope that the opposite may be attainable for some, apart from the wild idea that it maybe a ‘magikal herb garden’ for the immortals, it could also be a cosmic nursery for tiny evolving spiritual beings. That’s you, me, the fish in the sea and your pet cat or dog for starters!

So as we head on into the 21st Century and into a period of unique and apparently unrivalled technological prowess it is evident even more so that the elements of acceleration, social control and spiritual degradation are being applied more than ever. The swings between reason and holocaust, in just this last century alone, are wider and more violent than at any other time in recorded history.
It is also in the next few decades of this coming century that our planet is scheduled for a 10 billion plus population.
To ensure this our own ingenuity and previously mentioned ‘technological prowess’ is providing the tools, techniques and logistics to make such an incredibly mind numbingly vast population viable, if only fractionally just sustainable. Keeping people ALIVE at any cost is big business.
This volume of people, this level of sophistication all teetering upon the potential precipice of planetary ecological breakdown and therefore multi-species demise is unique in our recorded history. And yet after the bloodiest century in mankind’s history we are still expected to believe that virtually every authoritarian establishment across the world had no part in these atrocities – and that they uniquely and exclusively hold the only keys to freedom and happiness through their beneficent rule.
Clearly, we humans never do learn!
We stand by - literally spellbound - taking our luxurious ‘glamorous’ lifestyles as suitable incentive or reward, titillated by innovation and in exchange we give our lives and energies to the perpetual industry of expansion. In this occluded state we cannot but help allow this sickening syndrome of ‘empire’ to continue.

Why are so many unhappy unsatisfied souls being brought to earth at this time merely to stave or stand by helplessly and watch as a tiny elite unfolds chaos upon us all?
Why are our 2000-year-old establishments of rule, law and governance designed to make the right choices, the good choices so hard?
Why have our governments and ruling hierarchies throughout the centuries continually moved to engage the public in ever wider and more deadly forms of war when we are supposed to be so much more enlightened than ever?

Let me assure you, despite any ‘junk science’ suggesting the contrary, the human race are not natural born killers!

Unfortunately as the reasons unfold throughout the book the conclusion becomes pretty conclusive and rather startling.
If you couldn’t care less about living in a cosmic food chain and perhaps learning to see a real possibility to change your life and walk towards true purpose and meaning then I suggest you snap the pages shut immediately and forget what you have just read.
For everyone else, continually told what to think and believe by a frankly psychopathic politician or hypnotising media system, you already know in your heart that there has to be a reason to all this madness and confusion.

There just has to be a good reason for you being here!

For those who are staying with me, for the moment at least, hold on tight because I am about to show you that everything you knew, thought or believed in has been carefully developed, controlled and managed for as long as mankind has existed on this planet and maybe if were lucky we can share some ideas for an escape plan.
It’s a rather rollercoaster start so please bear with me – even I having a good deal of research was more than amazed at the immensity and utter sophistication of the Venus fly trap we have found ourselves borne into.

So, as if screamed from the mouth of some fiery Baptist preacher I say ‘Prepare to meet thy Shepard’ or rather I would quote a line from Patrick Mcgoohan’s famous 1960’s TV series ‘The Prisoner’, (itself based upon a medieval morality play called ‘everyman’ and perhaps a suitably apt TV allegory for our condition), and leave it at “The Butcher with the warmest heart has the sharpest blade”.

So read on fellow travellers and fear not– for as confusing and disturbing as the reality may seem – the true journey of your life maybe only just beginning….

Let's just see how free we really are .....

posted on Apr, 13 2005 @ 06:15 PM
Hmmm...I know of other references to this theory, from works of fiction (depending on how loosely you decide this term is used). Damon Knight's short story "To Serve Man" that was adapted to Rod Serling's "Twilight Zone" & Spider Robinson's short story involving Callahan's Crosstime Saloon, named "Unnatural Causes". I take it that you might say that these other writers have gotten a hold of the "truth" as you're depicting here, as well?

To be honest, I find this theory disturbingly plausible, if a bit hard-to-swallow (If you'll pardon the pun). As skeptical as I normally am, I don't dismiss anything out of hand. I shall give this more thought...It's a heck of a theory to fully digest...

[edit on 13-4-2005 by MidnightDStroyer]

posted on Apr, 14 2005 @ 07:20 AM
I'd not heard of those others MD..I would love to see a synopsis and your interpretation of you say, as we go on I have extensive examples of what I have to come to refer to as 'wake-up callers' - people who througout the ages have for one reason or another stumbled on these hidden threads and chased them down to reveal startling, 'enlightning' ( as a pose to illuminating!!), and to those in power very unwelcome information.

Additionally, I'd like to thank everyone who'se posted so far for the warm welcome and the voices of support. This information we are all receiving today is both earth shaking, brain melting, startling and incredible, often overwhelming and occasionally very depressing reading - and there is an awful lot of it - so I appreciate in advance your patience and understanding as I slowly unfold more of this mystery...

posted on Apr, 14 2005 @ 09:40 AM

Originally posted by captainhemmingway
This information we are all receiving today is both earth shaking, brain melting, startling and incredible, often overwhelming and occasionally very depressing reading -

Well, in my case I really wouldn't consider it to be brain melting...After all, you are not the first exposure I've had to a very similar concept.

I'll put together more details & synopsis on my references. However, I'd prefer to withold posting them here until you've posted more of your theory...I wouldn't like to be unduly influencing your thoughts, even inadvertantly.

[edit on 14-4-2005 by MidnightDStroyer]

posted on Apr, 14 2005 @ 05:50 PM

Originally posted by captainhemmingway
as I slowly unfold more of this mystery...

1) What book are you quoting from? Your previous post mentioned several times "this book", etc.

2) Please continue to unfold. You have my attention, don't leave me hanging.

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 07:03 AM
The Book in questions is one I have written called 'The Food of the Gods'.

The previous post is the introduction to it.

It is a long and detailed work and I was just contemplating how best to post it up since it has been written 'as a book' and as such is specifically designed to unfold over a period of hours/chapters rather than in a web forum where people expect a short sharp shock. If I 'cut to the chase' to quickly then an inherent fear and flee instinct will cut in. Realistically though you here are the only people who I believe can actually handle the truth. 'Everyday people' would more than likely undergo a severe psychological crash.

Which is why again, without wanting to be overly melodramatic or to be accused of being the master of hype, I would repeat my warning : IF you seriously want your life to go on in the comparative bliss you currently have then you should not read what is coming - forget this thread and don't come back because I am literally going to show you how to identify the non-human predators that exist amongst us.

However, right up front I will say we ARE NOT in a 'matrix style' reality farm simply as 'food ampules' and we ARE NOT looking for lizard people.




posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 12:02 PM
Once again great post but very disappointed that you used the same title for a book as Terrence McKenna did.

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 12:12 PM
"You have voted captainhemmingway for the Way Above Top Secret award."

Inerestingly enough when you mentioned the 1000 years life span i remembered some ancient egyptian writings that claim their kings lived for this long!
Also, i think theyre waiting for cloning and robotics to develop, that would enable them to finally have proper low-maintanance slaves that dont cause problems for the mastaaa

People united can never be defeated!

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 02:07 PM
Please continue. I would like to read your book in its entirety. Send me a U2U with an email that I can contact you with. I cannot initiate a U2U because I have less than 20 posts. Sorry for any inconvenience.

[edit on 15-4-2005 by Sum Guy]

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 03:42 PM
Quick Question:

If they "Don't want us to know it" how did you find out?

These pesky N.W.O. types don't keep secrets well do they?

Nice post and nice thread though, going to reply once I have enough time.

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 06:03 PM

IF you seriously want your life to go on in the comparative bliss you currently have then you should not read what is coming -

Trust me, it would really be a streach to describe my life as "comparative bliss" bring it on!

By the by......have you had this book published? Could one get a copy of it and get the 'bad news' in one piece, without having to be left hanging until your next post??

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 07:45 PM
Sorry Guys, I've been giving this some real hard thought - I don't think what I've got to put forward actually reveals anymore than I've already said already - I just kind of got a bit carried away with the thread - I'm just guessing in the dark like we all are, maybe watched a few too many movies lately - I may have sounded like I know more than I actually do but that's just how posts come over...These are just some wild ideas - I don't really have a book written - just a few more thoughts you know about there being to many occult movies and books lately and stuff like that - and I really don't think they add anything more to what I've already said but I don't have any great answers here...I'm just an ordinary guy - really - no more...this thing has got way out of control...I really am not prepared to pretend like I got some great secrets here which is how it's coming over...I'll leave all the wild revelations to David Icke. Sorry, case closed for me - I already feel far to much responsibility for what I've posted already....

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 08:02 PM
So it was all just a big tirade? What happened to "the book"? How about just coming clean and admitting you were quoting from somebody else's work, which is exactly what I suspected you were doing. Who's work? What book?

Don't start something you can't, or won't finish. Leaving the thread in this state should earn you a ban from this forum for life.

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 08:15 PM
I'm sorry man, I don't want to post no more. I have nothing more to say. Go for a ban - thats' ok by me...skipshipman was right - It's all just idle speculation - there are no genuine original ideas - it's just a compilation - it should be deleted - shouldn't even be here. What more can I say than sorry - I just don't need any personal attacks right now..

[edit on 15/4/2005 by captainhemmingway]

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 08:28 PM
Oh Dear, I cant read all that stuff. I will say however, that what the elite wanted for so many years is now being fulfilled by the puppet in Washington. I'm telling you, WHAT LUCK!

Sept 11 The luckiest day in the Illuminati's lives!

The devil rules.

posted on Apr, 15 2005 @ 10:07 PM
I was intrigued, Captain, with your tale, and when you delivered the food aspect of our proliferation, I even paused to reflect on such an assumption that I myself had when considering the grand scheme of things. Like you, I reflected on the possibility that we could very well resemble turkeys. However, as my thoughts progressed I challenged myself, much as I see the same possibilities and challenges I must pose to you. Perhaps you have more to add that will shed some light, such that:

It is possible that this planet to our farmers, is nothing but a pasture we provide to cattle, where the cattle as far as we can determine, have no idea they are being fed, fattened and bred at our discretion.

I can only presume that for our farmers to allow our pro-creation, is to either acquiesce to their absorption of any energy we might remit upon death, or to have us propagate in such large numbers that when they decide to go to harvest, we are enough to meet their demand and remain indulgent in reproduction despite our then learning we are but fois gras for their voracious palate.

Cattle and all other herds are below our intelligence and therefore pose no threat to us, in that they cannot develop scientifically. For me, the comparison ends there. We are intelligent beings, and we have advanced exponentially from living in caves to living in space. This has got to be a threat to any superiors who do not need our energy passed in death, but need us in numbers as meat. This then, leads me to my next query:

If we are at the brink of cloning humans, then how advanced can our farmer masters actually be, if they have thus far indulged in a Biblical 6,000 year time frame (for the sake of argument and in their favour) of farming, where they themselves have obviously thought to do this by the utmost of enslavement, to meet their needs? This then demands that I address our farmers’ possible underestimation of those they herd and that herd’s ability to pose a serious and deadly threat to their dominance. As thinking and scientifically advancing beings, if we were to discover that we were in fact food for a superior race which we cannot defeat, we have the ability to poison their food, and believe me, we would. Now that I think of it, perhaps cattle are not as stupid as we make them out to be after all.

posted on Apr, 16 2005 @ 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Sum Guy
So it was all just a big tirade? What happened to "the book"? How about just coming clean and admitting you were quoting from somebody else's work, which is exactly what I suspected you were doing. Who's work? What book?

I've googled some of the stuff and found nothing. Unless somone can demonstrate that he's copying someone I see no reason to say that he is.

. Leaving the thread in this state should earn you a ban from this forum for life.

Why? He brought something up for everyone to consider, and it ended up not being as fruitful a path of inquiry as even he would've like. Nothing ban worthy in that, doesn't even warrant a "tsk tsk".

I see no reason to stop the thread. If the good captain doesn't want to participate in it anymore, fair enough, but everyone else can.

posted on Apr, 16 2005 @ 11:49 AM
As FSME, sometimes i get a say in what stays here (ex mods of this area use to U2U about which threads should be closed, etc) I see nothing wrong with this thread and i see no evidence to see a copying or cut-n-paste job being done here. I agree with Nygdan

[edit on 16-4-2005 by infinite]

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