posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 12:39 PM
Yeah yeah yeah, whatever, they're ALWAYS going to have human troops on the ground until robots can replace human troops. And that will be a while.
Humans have certain forms of intelligence, certain skills and the like that robots just do not have.
These robots will need to be communicated with constantly. You gonna send over 200,000 robots overseas and expect to communicate with them all.
Otherwise, they need independent A.I., which I can guarantee you is not going to work out because A.I. will always have problems initially that are
unforseen until they are discovered. It will be trial-and-error.
The ONLY time a robot soldier will replace a human soldier is if the robot soldiers are sent on a mission requiring humans, only the robots perform
the mission better.
And such a robot is going to be sooooooooooooooooooooo complex, have such complicated machinery, and a complex computer system for its A.I., that it
is more or less going to be just as fragile as a human.
One thing people seem to forget is, HUMANS ARE MACHINES TOO. We are biological machines. Most people, when they hear the word "machine," they think,
wires, pumps, levers, etc.....when science everyday is talking about how robots work better with machine parts that act like human muscles and the
Humans are biological machines. And we are incredibly complex ones. Our individual cells have more complex machinery than our most complex mechanical
machiens these days, let alone a human itself. As robots need to become more human-like to perform human missions, you will end up with the same
Biological machines (i.e. lifeforms) always make a joke out of human-made machines. Look at a horned beetle---it can lift 850 times its own weight.
Cockroaches can adapt to radiation and chemicals. A tiger can have a rope tied to its arm, go running full speed, the rope snaps back, and the tiger
flips head-over-paw. You tie a rope to your leg or shoulder and go running full speed and let them happen, and you'll come home with a torn ligament
My point is, people always think machines are far stronger than biological creatures because they always think of humans, who tend to be soft and
fleshy. Humans are one form of lifeform, one form of biological machinery. when you look at some of the other features other creatures have, they
match machinery pretty good. Look at the strength of a turtle. Look at electric eels, and then creatures that can literally light up and produce
Biological life is nothing more than a form of machinery; it takes in food, breaks it into minierals, uses it for fuel, and behold it is just a very
As robots get more complex, they are going to become just like regular biological life forms; heck, they may even employ the same principles as
Robots that can perform the same duties as humans are going to be so complex that if they get shot with a bullet, they're going to get messed up the
same as a human, unless technology makes the robots where they can repair themselves easily or something.
Robots cannot perform jobs such as peacekeeping and working with people and so forth either. How would the Iraqis feel right now if there were a bunch
of huge, armored Terminator robots walking around in there?? Those robots wouldn't have great people skills, because they're just naturally too
war-like in appearance.
If you made humanoid robots to handle the civil affairs, then you may as well just use regular people.
The only areas robots will replace humans in the near future are in areas such as reconnaisance in which a robotic vehicle could do it better or more
safely than a human, combat warfare such as armored-vehicle type stuff, etc......
if you send in robotic battle tanks, those tanks need to have their tracks replaced and engines fixed. What're you, going to have a bunch of humanoid
robots doing that work, who are just as fragile as ordinary humans themselves, when those humanoid robots may have limited AI even? There is a reason
the M1 Abrams has a 4 man crew, and not a 3 man crew iwth an automatic loading system. Because of the constant maintenance and repair and replacing of
tracks tanks require.
So even for combat type roles, human will always be needed. Robots are what you use if you need to sned a Humvee up to investigate maybe a dangerous
chemical weapon at first, to determine then if you should send humans near it or not.
Radiation and chemicals harm mechanical machinery just as they do biological machinery/lifeforms.
If you make humanoid robots, they're going to need chemical suits in the end as well, or some type of armoring which would then increase their weight
a great deal, which facotrs into all sorts of thingsl ike transportation and such, etc.....another thing is the computational power. It is amazing we
humans even walk; we have yet to make computers capable of matching our human brains. Yet if you try to knock a person over, they can balance. You
walk up to Honda's little robot and shove and it'll just fall over.
big tracked robots would need someone to replace their tracks and engines/motors, which would require humanoid-like robots, which would be very
human-like in complexity and thus very fragile. Only they'd also need an incredibly powerful computer acapable of incredible mathematical calculation
to walk and balance like an ordinary human.
And then even if you get these robots where they can walk and have motor skills for things like engine and electronics repair, etc.....suppose the
enemy captures one. You kow how much technology goes into researching that, and how a country like China or the Soviet Union would love to get a hold
Humans on the ground will be around for a loooong time. 2045 will be hear before we know it as well.
Whether combat robots are tracked or whether they can walk (which some can, but you can walk up to them and knock them over really easily), humans
will have to be around. Tracked robots can't care for themselves, and humanoid robots will be just as fragile as ordinary humans pretty much.
A humanoid robot would need a cooling system to keep from overheating, energy supply, etc....you'd end up building a metal and plastic human in the
end is all.
And if you make these robots AS intelligent as humans, able to learn and grow in intelligence, all that will happen is then the robots will eventualyl
be like, "What the he**!? why do we have to do all the fighting?"
[edit on 10-4-2005 by Broadsword20068]