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posted on Apr, 7 2005 @ 06:30 PM
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Not that "Peak Oil" isn't going to become a reality, rather its a scam to bring in the NWO.

1) Supply outstrips demand, according to Big Oil, whom we trust to tell us how much oil is actually in there.
2) Oil prices skyrocket.
3) Economy and stock market crashes.
4) Massive job loss, middle class tanks.
5) Unemployment spirals out of control
6) Crime skyrockets.
7) Society desperate for a solution, any solution.
8) Maitreya (New Age Christ, Christian Anti-Christ) appears, and has the "solution" to the world's problems. Everyone loves him for "saving" us.
9) One World Government, One World Religion, One World Leader (Antichrist) put in power.
10) False Prophet (666) forces everyone to be chipped (mark of the beast) to control crime and to make sure we're all playing fair in buying and selling.
11) Christians refuse, are all killed, everyone cheers because they are not going along with the Antichrist saviour.

Fact or fiction? Check it out - www.shareintl.org.

God Bless...

[edit on 063030p://444 by LogoWatch]




posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 08:49 AM
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I'll buy a tie between religion and peak oil when someone shows me the prophecy in the bible about SUVs and the quote from Jesus about $4.00 a gallon to fill up his Honda.


pao

posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 12:28 PM
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jesus rolls in a navigator on spinners



posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by pao
jesus rolls in a navigator on spinners


What blasphemy!

Spinners, yes, Navigator, no.

It's a Porsche Cayenne!



posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 12:44 PM
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Well I feel that "peak oil" can be a conspiracy for control, but killing Christians that is kind of radical my views, I am not a religious follower and I will be against control in the "NWO" so I will probably be killed too.



posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by LogoWatch
10) False Prophet (666) forces everyone to be chipped (mark of the beast) to control crime and to make sure we're all playing fair in buying and selling.


Sounds pretty good to me. I think religion is a load of BS and self delusion, I don't believe in an anti-christ. I reckon religious nutters are more of a threat than any politician today.


It sure seems like a better system than what's in place now...

Welcome to the NWO.



posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 01:22 PM
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8 billion starving people killing the members of the NWO and eating them.



posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 10:15 PM
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Religious nutters?

Is that like calling a person who is enviromentally responsible a tree hugger?

I get so tired of this terminology. It's like saying all religious people nuts or something. No way. Maybe some religious folks are nuts, but such is life, nuts could be within any organization, or within any group. That doesn't make religion nuts.

Believing in god and sprituality is far better than worshipping the pill bottle, and other BS therapies that have evolved over the years, those of which who create cripples "in the name of help."

Troy



posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 10:28 PM
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Jesus vehicle is accuratley described in Ezekiel 1. its got big rims, but He has no need of cars...

lets take religion out of this. A peak oil Scam is enough in itself. The religious spam the NWO will push is just crowd control. (NWO takes the atheist view point of religion,while pretending to be newagers, pretending to be xtains)

If democrats (or anyone) were serious about getting rid of oil scams they would take alot of the campaign contributions to fund alternative energy solutions and marketing their applications. If there is a solution out there, they would easily win the next election on the back of its finding and implementation.
Or they could take about 1/3 , use their bloggers to announce how they are starting up a fund for this and supporting labratories, and try to push a Republican response. (dean is the guy up top right. blog extrodainare).

With this at the forfront of thought of the public to find alternative energy , it would have to be found sooner or later. they can only fake channeling so much money before they loose all credibility.



posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 11:28 PM
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Looking for a reason to find another site to spew on? Keep on with the out-of-theme BS and you'll have that reason, folks.



posted on Apr, 8 2005 @ 11:48 PM
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I don’t think oil is enough to usher in a one world leader because people can live without it. I think it is a huge factor though. The only way to get a one world government/leader would be to introduce an immanent world ending event. Like an asteroid.

Now couple that with oil and you’ve got people desperate for leadership and a solution. If the entire planet knows that it may die the same catastrophic death, they will want to work together to find a solution. That’s when the ole Mr. Anti-Christ and/or NWO will cruise in, IMO, of course.


[edit on 8-4-2005 by Event Horizon]



posted on Apr, 9 2005 @ 06:50 AM
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If there is such an organisation to bring the "NWO", then they don't need peak oil to destabilize the world. The only thing they have to do is to make sure that US trade deficits do not dissapear: this will make the global economy collapse -as has been warned by major economic institutions such as WTO, World Bank etc.

Blobber



posted on Apr, 9 2005 @ 09:06 AM
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While the above is just a scenario, if you follow the research done on the NWO, the whole Peak Oil issue is just going to accelerate it.

Blobber, you are correct, it may be a combination of many issues, but the de-stablization of society would be key to bringing in the One World Government / AC.



posted on Apr, 9 2005 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Quest
I'll buy a tie between religion and peak oil when someone shows me the prophecy in the bible about SUVs and the quote from Jesus about $4.00 a gallon to fill up his Honda.



Jesus talks about SUV's - RangeRover 4:19
Jesus talks about 4 dollar gas - AAmoco 5:12

That's from the Crakeur Testament.



posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by Event Horizon
I don’t think oil is enough to usher in a one world leader because people can live without it. I think it is a huge factor though.
[edit on 8-4-2005 by Event Horizon]


Are you kidding me? Do you have the survivalist and naturalist skills that the folks who lived without oil had? In an area densly populated with little rich soil to harvest crops for youself, multiply the difficulty exponentially.

People in this day in the modern world cannot live without oil or an alternative. People are so dependent on it, it is unbelievable. How will you get your food and water? Dig a well? Drink out of polluted rivers? How will you get your food? Crops? Hunting? Are you going to make a bow an arrow? Will you eat leaves? How do you know which plants are edible, and which will cause adverse effects?

Shelter? Can you make a permanant shelter out of only immediately available materials fast enough to stay in it? Protecting yourself from people who cannot? Protecting yourself from animals? The elements?

I think not. And don't go looking for a contractor for your new house... wood, saws, trucks.. These things require oil (lumber mills, propulsion/lubrications, fuel).

Oil is a vital part of modern life, modern society cannot live without it, or an alternative.



posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by intrigue
Are you kidding me?


I’m sorry but I think you are wrong. Even though oil is an intricate part of our everyday lives, we do not need it to survive. No, people will not be able to live the same materialistic lives that we lead today. Sacrifices will have to be made.


People in this day in the modern world cannot live without oil or an alternative. People are so dependent on it, it is unbelievable. How will you get your food and water? Dig a well? Drink out of polluted rivers? How will you get your food? Crops? Hunting? Are you going to make a bow an arrow? Will you eat leaves? How do you know which plants are edible, and which will cause adverse effects?


You talk as if you’re going to wake up one day and not have these things. It’s not going to be like that. It will be a slow process were things continue to just get higher and higher until the average person cannot afford it. Then the tasks that you speak of will get accomplished out of necessity. People have done extraordinary things out of necessity and I don’t see why this will be any different. BTW, everything you mentioned can be made or done manually, with the exception of making fuel(gasoline) and lubrications.


Originally posted by intrigue
Oil is a vital part of modern life, modern society cannot live without it, or an alternative.


Modern society will have a difficult time dealing with it.



[edit on 10-4-2005 by Event Horizon]



posted on Apr, 10 2005 @ 10:12 PM
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The NWO started long before now, and before oil was the issue, I place it somewhere after WWII. Communissum stepped in the way. Several events occured over the years that show it was growing, but I think it lost grips in the late 90's when world trade took off and commerce became a more powerful force than governments. Now the power heads are siezing large companies and taking control. Why else would America elect an idiot into the highest office, corporate America told you who to vote for. This is not the NWO people were looking for since people weren't looking at the oil lobby as being behind it, but they are not the only ones.



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by Event Horizon
You talk as if you’re going to wake up one day and not have these things. It’s not going to be like that. It will be a slow process were things continue to just get higher and higher until the average person cannot afford it. Then the tasks that you speak of will get accomplished out of necessity. People have done extraordinary things out of necessity and I don’t see why this will be any different. BTW, everything you mentioned can be made or done manually, with the exception of making fuel(gasoline) and lubrications.


Because declining supply is now perceived to be the market reality (whether we are at peak oil or not), oil prices are expected to continue to trend upward, and the level where the average person will no longer be able to afford to buy basic things is not that far off. It could be as early as five or ten years. There is no way, even if an emergency was declared today--that alternatives could be invented for all necessary products in time to have an impact on oil demand.

The suggestion that "manual" or alternative processes can replace petroleum dependency is unrealistic. It isn't about just conserving and becoming less materialistic--its not like 7 billion people can just live more simple lives and the problem is solved. Oil has become like oxygen--to disentangle it from our lives is to erase the industrial and technological revolution from history. You can't put that toothpaste back in the tube--you can't feed, clothe, keep healthy, and organize cities of millions of people without industry and technology, and you can't do those things without oil.

Everything is derivative of petroleum products--from the medications we take, the houses we live in, the clothes we wear, the computers we use, processes to purify water, even to make alternative energy--to convert to manual processes, millions of people will die, even if it happens gradually. Without the oil-based inventions that have been created in the past 100 years, the inability to maintain sanitary conditions will cause widespread disease. The lack of pharmaceuticals and access to advanced medical care will cause early death. Inability to transport and produce food will cause mass famines. The population of the planet will be significantly reduced--it is no wonder why the U.S. is literally fighting to control as much of the oil resources as possible.

I would say that it is unlikely that the public is going to have any say when it comes time to implement drastic plans. The government has put every precaution in place to ensure that they have the ability to suspend all personal freedoms and silence the media in emergency situations. You can be sure that when millions of Americans are living in the dark, going hungry, and dying of simple illness, you can be assured that marshall law will be declared, FEMA will take over, and that will be the end of our democracy as we know it.



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 05:42 AM
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Modern society will have a difficult time dealing with it.


Yeah, I believe the worlds population is projected to be reduced to 2.2bn, that's a difficult time!

I appreciate what you are saying but I have to agree with intrigue. If people and espically governments prepare for the coming crisis then yes, I imagine there will be in a sense, a smooth (ish) transition from the petroleum age to something else, what that else will be, nobody knows! Well I don't anyway.

However, at the moment this is not happening, people are not aware of 'peak-oil' - they simply don't care because it hasen't happened yet. There are elections in the UK at the moment, no parties have addressed 'peak-oil' in their manifesto, the Green parties' solution for the energy crisis / global warming is to phase out nuclear power - they don't have a clue and they are representing the environmentally aware. We are currently widening motorways, enlarging airports, spending millions of pounds on frankly, absolute rubbish - when we hit the threshold and we will, we won't be able to fuel any planes or cars. Instead the government (UK) should be planning ahead, environment should top of the agenda, we should be researching more efficient combustion engines, improving public transport, raising road tax, etc. It's not happening at the moment and it never will happen, this is why we will be utterly screwed!

Lastly, the contention that 'peak-oil' stems from NWO is ridiculus - the links are tenuous at best but I guess it's fun trying to link it all together with some conspiracy rubbish. I do however, believe that there is a selfish interest by certain players in the petroluem industry to profit out of the forthcoming crisis and for obvious reasons, oil companies won't declare a crisis as their stocks will plummet. There are tonnes of political implications tied with peak-oil, I reckon if you think about them logically you'll come to an answer that doesn't involve NWO, and sinister cigarette smoking men



posted on Apr, 11 2005 @ 11:41 PM
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I'm thinking instead of building bombs, and blowing each other up countries should ban together and actually handle bigger problems together like the possible oil shortage and what will replace it.

It can be done, it's non-sense to say it can't be done, we just need to do it.

Troy



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